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Thought so too. Hard to imagine anyone would not see this attack coming this time of year, but I don't think their gov would sacrifice people to make Hamas repu

Thought so too. Hard to imagine anyone would not see this attack coming this time of year, but I don't think their gov would sacrifice people to make Hamas reputation slightly worse. Also, warring now undermines negotiations with other Arab/Muslim countries, Israel would be stupid to not foresee it. The worst possible conspiracy is current gov wants to stay in power and show the pink front "this is what happens if you distract us with your protests". If so I hope they burn in hell for additional eternity. But it's also a naive take. Charitably they literally had hands full I guess.

SenAnder 3y ago
It would not be unprecedented. Nixon prolonged the Vietnam war to help his election odds [1], and Israel itself perpetrated false flag attacks during the Lavon Affair [2], and, arguably, the attack on USS Liberty [3]. I'm not saying this attack by Hamas was allowed to happen (in fact, unless some evidence comes to light, the default assumption should be there was no conspiracy), but "I don't think the gov would sacrifice people" [4] is not a sure thing. It's probable, but not nearly certain. [1] https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/nixon-prolonged-vietnam-war-for-political-gainand-johnson-knew-about-it-newly-unclassified-tapes-suggest-3595441/ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/nixon-prolonged-vi... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair [3] Citing Ennes's book, Lenczowski notes: Liberty's personnel received firm orders not to say anything to anybody about the attack, and the naval inquiry was conducted in such a way as to earn it the name of "coverup". - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident [4] I deliberately cut your sentence short. Their goal could be different from just tarring Hamas. Such as swaying local elections, or increasing US military aid, sorry, cooperation [5], with Israel. [5] If this Capitol crumbled to the ground, the one thing that would remain would be our commitment to our aid, I don’t even call it our aid, our cooperation with Israel. - Nancy Pelosi, Israel-American Council Conference, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1LmnQRnw8I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1LmnQRnw8I
swader999 3y ago
Perhaps there were indications, it would still be hard to know exactly when and how large an attack would be. I think that music festival was invite only, very exclusive, possibly some of elites children there.
- tguvot 3y ago
  music festival had tickets for sale, not by invite: https://www.eventer.co.il/event/novaparalellotranslate/wCqCL https://www.eventer.co.il/event/novaparalellotranslate/wCqCL . children of elite are hardly a thing in israel. especially in context of drug infused trance festivals at nature. which are dime a dozen over there.

SenAnder 3y ago

It would not be unprecedented. Nixon prolonged the Vietnam war to help his election odds [1], and Israel itself perpetrated false flag attacks during the Lavon Affair [2], and, arguably, the attack on USS Liberty [3]. I'm not saying this attack by Hamas was allowed to happen (in fact, unless some evidence comes to light, the default assumption should be there was no conspiracy), but "I don't think the gov would sacrifice people" [4] is not a sure thing. It's probable, but not nearly certain. [1] https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/nixon-prolonged-vietnam-war-for-political-gainand-johnson-knew-about-it-newly-unclassified-tapes-suggest-3595441/ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/nixon-prolonged-vi... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair [3] Citing Ennes's book, Lenczowski notes: Liberty's personnel received firm orders not to say anything to anybody about the attack, and the naval inquiry was conducted in such a way as to earn it the name of "coverup". - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident [4] I deliberately cut your sentence short. Their goal could be different from just tarring Hamas. Such as swaying local elections, or increasing US military aid, sorry, cooperation [5], with Israel. [5] If this Capitol crumbled to the ground, the one thing that would remain would be our commitment to our aid, I don’t even call it our aid, our cooperation with Israel. - Nancy Pelosi, Israel-American Council Conference, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1LmnQRnw8I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1LmnQRnw8I

swader999 3y ago

Perhaps there were indications, it would still be hard to know exactly when and how large an attack would be. I think that music festival was invite only, very exclusive, possibly some of elites children there.

tguvot 3y ago
music festival had tickets for sale, not by invite: https://www.eventer.co.il/event/novaparalellotranslate/wCqCL https://www.eventer.co.il/event/novaparalellotranslate/wCqCL . children of elite are hardly a thing in israel. especially in context of drug infused trance festivals at nature. which are dime a dozen over there.