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> Converse curiously. From the guidelines. For those interested in diving deeper on the topic of crime in California: [0]: https://www.ppic.org/publication/cr

• asveikau 3y ago
  > While violent and property crime rates increased in 2021, both remain relatively low That's pretty much it. I get so tired of internet discussions where people do not understand this, and I lost my patience to "converse curiously" with people who choose to remain ignorant of this in order to justify fear or anger or dehumanizing hate. I've had countless discussions, including on HN, where you can cite this and people will sooner say that crime statistics are false, and specifically falsified in a way that destroys their argument, than admit being wrong or not having a complete perspective.
  • d-z-m 3y ago
    > I lost my patience to "converse curiously" with people When this happens, simply refrain from commenting until you regain that patience. This forum only remains civil if we all make our best effort to keep it that way.
    • asveikau 3y ago
      I think it's possible that we shouldn't be patient with some ideas. Eg. American political discourse has gone so crazy that people can openly support fascism and it's acceptable. I don't think it ought to be.