Yup exactly, I hated the daemon autostart thing. But it's a small issue compared to the mess I see in the rest of software these days ... Alpine Linux seems i

Yup exactly, I hated the daemon autostart thing. But it's a small issue compared to the mess I see in the rest of software these days ... Alpine Linux seems interesting too, although right now Debian suits me well. I guess the problem is that I still don't make Debian packages myself, while Alpine's APKBUILD seems more approachable -- pure shell, while Debian has an array of tools and formats. But Debian "lagging" a bit can be a feature, not necessarily a bug.