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seems like politics. there are plenty of packages in hombrew that will no longer receive updates but they’re not deprecated

Macha 3y ago
The package being dead is one thing, the users should expect that homebrew will not magically create updates that upstream doesn't have. That updates exist but homebrew will not legally be able to distribute them, meaning you could be installing an old and vulnerable version that will never get updated on the other hand, seems worthwhile warning people about.
- bogantech 3y ago
  Homebrew is legally able to distribute them, they're making a decision not to
  - Brian_K_White 3y ago
    Perhaps "legally" was the wrong word, but the essence is still that they can't redistribute them, even if the reason is not law. The fact that the reason is it would be incompatible with other etsablished policy, and they wrote that policy themselves in the first place, doesn't change the fact of "can't". It's not legitimate to say "no one is stopping you from rewriting all your other contracts, charters, and principles to be compatible with my new license". And who knows, maybe they even can't "legally" if everything were fully evaluated. Also, this sounds like an attempt to obfuscate or downplay the essential fact here of who made the breaking change. If someone cared about Terraform being included in brew, and wanted to know who to blame for their orderly world being disturbed, it is not because homebrew has decided to evict Hashicorp, it is because Hashicorp left.
  - deleted 3y ago
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  - monsieurbanana 3y ago
    They made that decision (to distribute applications with a specific type of licences) long ago. Nothing to do with terraform in particular.
latexr 3y ago
There’s a difference between a formula which is not updated because upstream doesn’t release new versions and one which won’t receive new updates in Homebrew because its license is no longer open-source (which the non-Cask part of Homebrew requires). This is the latter.
neurostimulant 3y ago
Homebrew Core only contains apps with opensource license, specifically license that compatible with Debian Free Software Guidelines license (GPL, Apache, BSD, MIT, etc). https://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses#DFSG-compatible_Licenses https://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses#DFSG-compatible_License...

Macha 3y ago

The package being dead is one thing, the users should expect that homebrew will not magically create updates that upstream doesn't have. That updates exist but homebrew will not legally be able to distribute them, meaning you could be installing an old and vulnerable version that will never get updated on the other hand, seems worthwhile warning people about.

bogantech 3y ago
Homebrew is legally able to distribute them, they're making a decision not to
- Brian_K_White 3y ago
  Perhaps "legally" was the wrong word, but the essence is still that they can't redistribute them, even if the reason is not law. The fact that the reason is it would be incompatible with other etsablished policy, and they wrote that policy themselves in the first place, doesn't change the fact of "can't". It's not legitimate to say "no one is stopping you from rewriting all your other contracts, charters, and principles to be compatible with my new license". And who knows, maybe they even can't "legally" if everything were fully evaluated. Also, this sounds like an attempt to obfuscate or downplay the essential fact here of who made the breaking change. If someone cared about Terraform being included in brew, and wanted to know who to blame for their orderly world being disturbed, it is not because homebrew has decided to evict Hashicorp, it is because Hashicorp left.
- deleted 3y ago
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- monsieurbanana 3y ago
  They made that decision (to distribute applications with a specific type of licences) long ago. Nothing to do with terraform in particular.

latexr 3y ago

There’s a difference between a formula which is not updated because upstream doesn’t release new versions and one which won’t receive new updates in Homebrew because its license is no longer open-source (which the non-Cask part of Homebrew requires). This is the latter.

neurostimulant 3y ago

Homebrew Core only contains apps with opensource license, specifically license that compatible with Debian Free Software Guidelines license (GPL, Apache, BSD, MIT, etc). https://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses#DFSG-compatible_Licenses https://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses#DFSG-compatible_License...