Have you read what fully censored conversation devolves to? See Chinese state media and social media, it aint pretty. > HN is relatively so good because there

Have you read what fully censored conversation devolves to? See Chinese state media and social media, it aint pretty. > HN is relatively so good because there are clear and enforced guardrails around what a conversation looks like. Hah, I think you'll find if you ask around that a surprisingly large number of people (especially liberal women) would be horrified at the discussions here. It's full of anonymous people furiously disagreeing with each other about everything, and full of arguments like "you're wrong because <facts>". If you accidentally wander into the ultra-liberal hacker blogosphere, the sort of places where everyone uses anime avatars and half of them are furries, you'll find a lot of hatred for HN and a belief that it's no different to /pol/. Some of them even block links from HN. So this distinction you're looking for doesn't really exist. If you support censorship you'll find they come for you next.