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The big business of bachelorette party buses

18 points by Anon84 3y ago

DelaneyM 3y ago
Anything to get the bachelorette parties out of gay bars. They’re a plague. Edit: The bachelorettes are the plague, not the gay bars. I assume they also blight straight bars, I just don’t go to those.
- bloopernova 3y ago
  Do the bouncers just let them in? If I owned a gay bar, I'd be careful to actually cater to my clients. I wouldn't sacrifice long term reputation and community just because some drunk hetero women want to objectify gay men and/or women. (Do bachelorette parties visit Lesbian bars? My assumption is no, but I freely admit that's a guess) What do the bachelorette parties do that's annoying to you? How do they act? Are the parties full of women who want "safe" men to dance with?
  - DelaneyM 3y ago
    Some do, but not every bar has a bouncer, and even then it’s hard to blanket-ban on suspicion. There aren’t any lesbian bars, sadly, but I would expect bachelorettes to hit them if they existed. The point seems to be “act slutty and let their guard down without risk”. (Though as a gay woman I have a whole separate rant about straight women in gay bars.) I have some sympathy for them. The whole point of gay bars is having fun and expressing one’s sexuality without risk. But each party is having a “once in a lifetime” drunken blowout, while for the rest of the bar it’s just a Friday. Also they bring extreme straight energy. It used to be less common, but then their behaviour was worse when gay culture was less mainstream and they treated it like going on safari. It was also galling when they invaded our space to celebrate marriage when we couldn’t marry, then turned around and voted Republican.
    - lelanthran 3y ago
      > Also they bring extreme straight energy. Is that a problem? Wouldn't it be an issue if a bar complained about gay patrons because "they bring extreme gay energy"? Is it at all okay to openly complain about the sexual orientation of a business' patrons?
      - DelaneyM 3y ago
        Are we really doing this? Every other club every day has straight energy. Every movie you watch, every book you read. The point of a gay bar is a homonormative space. And since gay people are outnumbered 20:1, and heteronormativity is the cultural constant, a place where gay is the norm is incredibly valuable. And I don’t think for one second that you think nobody complains about the presence of visibly gay people everywhere’s else. I don’t even know why I’m responding to this rage-baiting. I hope you get downvoted into oblivion.
        lelanthran 3y ago
        > I don’t even know why I’m responding to this rage-baiting. I hope you get downvoted into oblivion. No need to personally attack me, nor fly off the handle. It's quite common for people to disagree that "punching up" is okay, you know. There's nothing unusual about people who complain about hypocrisy either.
        DelaneyM 3y ago
        I do not believe you're making an argument in good faith, you're just stirring the bot with a false equivalence. Take it to twitter.
      - bloopernova 3y ago
        A minority excluding the majority has a different effect to the majority excluding a minority.
steelframe 3y ago
In the second picture in this article -- the one that's split in two with a diagonal line -- the fourth person from the left is giving the "OK" hand gesture. Read into that what you will.
- freitzkriesler2 3y ago
  You do realize that OK hand gesture was a troll job by 4chan, right? In other words, you read too much into it.
  - bloopernova 3y ago
    It, like Q, started out as a 4chan meme, but got coopted by the far right.
    - freitzkriesler2 3y ago
      Q was never a 4chan "meme". Q was a tripcode user who would post cryptic messages on 4chan. The anonymous users eventually began mocking Q because they were wrong. Then some group infiltrators got right wing groups hung up on it because it was a great psyop boomer, "do nothing good guys got this" troll job.
      - bloopernova 3y ago
        I'm using meme in the older sense[1]. Maybe replace it with "viral" or something? [1] "an element of a culture or system of behavior passed from one individual to another by imitation or other nongenetic means."
  - MattRix 3y ago
    It doesn’t matter how it started, it matters what it actually stands for now. In the case of that hand gesture, it really has been used intentionally by actual white supremacists (though I would argue that the woman in this particular photo might just be playing “the circle game” or something equally innocuous)
digitcatphd 3y ago
...Assuming all 12 buses are in operating Fri - Sun in a given weekend. Seems a bit of a stretch, but then again GPT claims there are 500 parties a weekend. Seems like a nice niche. Kudos to him.
- Doches 3y ago
  > but then again GPT claims there are 500 parties a weekend ...definitely an authoritative source that I'd go to first for city-local statistics.

18 points by Anon84 3y ago

Anything to get the bachelorette parties out of gay bars. They’re a plague. Edit: The bachelorettes are the plague, not the gay bars. I assume they also blight straight bars, I just don’t go to those.

bloopernova 3y ago
Do the bouncers just let them in? If I owned a gay bar, I'd be careful to actually cater to my clients. I wouldn't sacrifice long term reputation and community just because some drunk hetero women want to objectify gay men and/or women. (Do bachelorette parties visit Lesbian bars? My assumption is no, but I freely admit that's a guess) What do the bachelorette parties do that's annoying to you? How do they act? Are the parties full of women who want "safe" men to dance with?
- DelaneyM 3y ago
  Some do, but not every bar has a bouncer, and even then it’s hard to blanket-ban on suspicion. There aren’t any lesbian bars, sadly, but I would expect bachelorettes to hit them if they existed. The point seems to be “act slutty and let their guard down without risk”. (Though as a gay woman I have a whole separate rant about straight women in gay bars.) I have some sympathy for them. The whole point of gay bars is having fun and expressing one’s sexuality without risk. But each party is having a “once in a lifetime” drunken blowout, while for the rest of the bar it’s just a Friday. Also they bring extreme straight energy. It used to be less common, but then their behaviour was worse when gay culture was less mainstream and they treated it like going on safari. It was also galling when they invaded our space to celebrate marriage when we couldn’t marry, then turned around and voted Republican.
  - lelanthran 3y ago
    > Also they bring extreme straight energy. Is that a problem? Wouldn't it be an issue if a bar complained about gay patrons because "they bring extreme gay energy"? Is it at all okay to openly complain about the sexual orientation of a business' patrons?
    - DelaneyM 3y ago
      Are we really doing this? Every other club every day has straight energy. Every movie you watch, every book you read. The point of a gay bar is a homonormative space. And since gay people are outnumbered 20:1, and heteronormativity is the cultural constant, a place where gay is the norm is incredibly valuable. And I don’t think for one second that you think nobody complains about the presence of visibly gay people everywhere’s else. I don’t even know why I’m responding to this rage-baiting. I hope you get downvoted into oblivion.
      - lelanthran 3y ago
        > I don’t even know why I’m responding to this rage-baiting. I hope you get downvoted into oblivion. No need to personally attack me, nor fly off the handle. It's quite common for people to disagree that "punching up" is okay, you know. There's nothing unusual about people who complain about hypocrisy either.
        DelaneyM 3y ago
        I do not believe you're making an argument in good faith, you're just stirring the bot with a false equivalence. Take it to twitter.
    - bloopernova 3y ago
      A minority excluding the majority has a different effect to the majority excluding a minority.

steelframe 3y ago

In the second picture in this article -- the one that's split in two with a diagonal line -- the fourth person from the left is giving the "OK" hand gesture. Read into that what you will.

freitzkriesler2 3y ago
You do realize that OK hand gesture was a troll job by 4chan, right? In other words, you read too much into it.
- bloopernova 3y ago
  It, like Q, started out as a 4chan meme, but got coopted by the far right.
  - freitzkriesler2 3y ago
    Q was never a 4chan "meme". Q was a tripcode user who would post cryptic messages on 4chan. The anonymous users eventually began mocking Q because they were wrong. Then some group infiltrators got right wing groups hung up on it because it was a great psyop boomer, "do nothing good guys got this" troll job.
    - bloopernova 3y ago
      I'm using meme in the older sense[1]. Maybe replace it with "viral" or something? [1] "an element of a culture or system of behavior passed from one individual to another by imitation or other nongenetic means."
- MattRix 3y ago
  It doesn’t matter how it started, it matters what it actually stands for now. In the case of that hand gesture, it really has been used intentionally by actual white supremacists (though I would argue that the woman in this particular photo might just be playing “the circle game” or something equally innocuous)

digitcatphd 3y ago

...Assuming all 12 buses are in operating Fri - Sun in a given weekend. Seems a bit of a stretch, but then again GPT claims there are 500 parties a weekend. Seems like a nice niche. Kudos to him.

Doches 3y ago
> but then again GPT claims there are 500 parties a weekend ...definitely an authoritative source that I'd go to first for city-local statistics.