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What is a "document"? (1997) [pdf]
- pizzafeelsright 3y agoLinking to a pdf is a good example of what is possibly not a document.
- rout39574 3y agoAre you suggesting that tech from before some epoch should just be categorically ignored? If so, I disagree.
- ggm 3y agoI think it is more that a pURL to a pdf has risks for both 404, and becoming unreadable in the technology shift (postscript has just been deprecated by Apples preview tool) ie, a comment with wisdom, but wrapped up as humour.
- vessenes 3y ago@dang - this is actually pretty interesting, particularly because of when it was written (1997). I'd suggest you add the date in the tile, it's of most interest (to me at least) as a view of where we were all at in the '90s thinking about digital records.
- tingletech 3y agoBuckland and Lynch are still doing the Friday seminar https://www.ischool.berkeley.edu/events/ias https://www.ischool.berkeley.edu/events/ias
- jareklupinski 3y ago> discussed whether, for example, sculpture, museum objects, and live animals, could be considered ‘documents.’ big "what are birds" energy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh0Y2hVe_bw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh0Y2hVe_bw
- pestaa 3y agoAlso, every food is a salad: https://saladtheory.github.io/ https://saladtheory.github.io/
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- eimrine 3y agoTrying to google "Are documents where the confusion started" ends up with your comment, any sources to the timely documentary about women?
- junke 3y agoIt's most certainly a reference to Matt Walsh's documentary https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/in-what-is-a-woman-matt-walsh-asks-a-question/ https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/in-what-is-a-woman-matt-wal...
- Rygian 3y agoThings I consider "a document" and that I would like to manipulate as files in my filesystem: * A Facebook post. * An email I receive. * A form I fill in online. * A chat session on WhatsApp. * An SMS. * An X-ray of my wrist. * A video "voicemail" left by the caller when I don't pick up a Meet call. * My electricity consumption as measured by the smart meter in my house. * (the list goes on) The fact that none of them appear in my filesystem* by default is, to me, the biggest failure of consumer IT since the Internet exists. *Or at least in some standardized, interchangeable, mostly uniform container format.
- pyinstallwoes 3y agoContent Addressable Routing A 'renderer' that interprets the memory location as some bitstream which turns it into an expectation of some type of shape for the bits at location. OS Built on virtual machine over DHT-like system / Content Addressable Memory / Heck, throw in computations on there too, why compute things that have already been computed? Basically Xanadu.
- Rygian 3y agoHow do Content-Addressable documents work for content that is meant to be edited (ie. with changing content, versioning, …) or for content that is meant to include live data?
- ElectricalUnion 3y agoBesides some canonical, immutable checkpoints directly in a DHT, CRDTs could store the intermediate mutated state for you. Probably on a side "testnet".
- pyinstallwoes 3y agoI like how Xanadu solved this. Given any thing exists as a unique hash at a high level you get linked hashes but the way Xanadu approached the url structure to map to a bitstream is genius.
- vacuity 3y ago
- lioeters 3y agoReminds me of the discussion around what is "content". Recent criticism of the word suggests that "content" is how art and creative expression gets processed into commodity, entertainment and consumption. With machine learning, "content mills" are hoping to generate endless amount of content without a (human) creator. I also wonder what a "document" means in the context of a web browser. It includes HTML, CSS, JavaScript, as well as any media files like audio, video. The Pandora's box was to include dynamic scripting, so a document is run as an application, a kind of "hyper document" for multimedia communication and interaction.