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Well that's just going to fuel more conspiracy theories. Sigh. It was amazing when states like PA were counting and clearly said results will change by the mor

Well that's just going to fuel more conspiracy theories. Sigh. It was amazing when states like PA were counting and clearly said results will change by the morning, and when that happened and people woke up to a different result they started crying conspiracy. The election definitely wasn't rigged, but if it had been necessary to do so I would have supported it. Can't ever repeat the disaster we had from 2016 - 2022 again.

olgeni 3y ago
> but if it had been necessary to do so I would have supported it. And this is not going to fuel more conspiracy theories, at all \o/
- PrimeMcFly 3y ago
  The people that fail to reason will continue to fail to reason regardless of any comment I make.
  - w4ffl35 3y ago
    You stated you are in favor of rigging elections in order to prevent a person you don't want to be president to become president. Nothing you say on this topic is worth listening to.
    - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
      Not quite. It's not just about personal preferences. It's about someone who is a clear and present danger to our way of life and the security of the country.
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      - w4ffl35 3y ago
        That is your personal opinion. A large potion of Americans feel differently than you. You may have strong feelings about this, but you aren't allowed to force an outcome on society because of it. You are advocating for fascism and rigged elections because you don't like a president's style.
        PrimeMcFly 3y ago
        Those Americans are wrong, and most deserve the 'deplorable' moniker they were given. Most of them shouldn't have a right to vote in the first place IMO. And to downplay the issues as 'a president's style' is incredibly disingenuous.
        w4ffl35 3y ago
        These are simply more opinions and do not justify your desire to enact fascism via rigged elections.
        PrimeMcFly 3y ago
        No, not opinions. Demonstrable facts.
        ginsider_oaks 3y ago
        > Most of them shouldn't have a right to vote in the first place [in my opinion]. > > These are simply more opinions [...] > > > No, not opinions. Demonstrable facts. you're going to have to explain this one to me
        PrimeMcFly 3y ago
        Most of the positions of people who vote GOP are untenable and at odds with our current understanding. Denying climate change is a good example. Voting on that basis has, and will continue to have real damage for citizens of the country, and thus the country as an entity.
      - olgeni 3y ago
        > It's about someone who is a clear and present danger to our way of life and the security of the country. However, this mirrors what the QAnons and the hardline MAGAs say about Clinton and Biden. Or more or less what Bush used to tell about Saddam. It might be worth noticing.
        PrimeMcFly 3y ago
        Only one side thought JFK was going to reappear. Only one side has a history of believing ridiculous claims with no evidence that repeatedly fail to bear fruit. Maybe that side should be taken less seriously.
        olgeni 3y ago
        Yes, and maybe we should also avoid parroting their rhetoric :D
        PrimeMcFly 3y ago
        Sure, I wouldn't and haven't done so. Was just refuting your point.
AllegedAlec 3y ago
"If democracy doesn't return the result we want we'll rig the system to return that result anyway"
- glompers 3y ago
  George Washington in his transfer of power farewell speech warned Americans to avoid factionalism, right? But never mind that. Our party base (true speaking for either franchise that extracts rents from the need for electoral viability now) are more patriotic than that dude. Or we only have to outrun the slower party in order to successfully outrun the grizzly bear of being less best for the country. No other accountability applies for very long if your faction can still pull back ahead as the better one for some projective new future of America, but both factions by their own definition will always outrun the other in that shadow race.
  - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
    The problem is you have half the country severely lacking in education and their thoughts and ideas about what is best for the country don't correspond to reality.
    - georgeplusplus 3y ago
      And Whose reality exactly is that? Have you lived outside the US? Socialites in expensive lavish cities are the minority in the world by far. The majority is what you just described, poverty, and lack of education to start. To them you are like Maria Antoinette telling them just eat cake from your cushy little San Fran bubble.
      - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
        It's not anyone's reality, it's reality, period. Yes, I've lived outside the US - I'm not even from the US. I've lived in 5 different countries. I don't really care how it seems. Ignorance, and offense at having that ignorance called out, is not a sufficient reason to burn a country to the ground and violate the rights of citizens. If it were up to that poor uneducated half of the US, most of them would push for the US to be closer to Gilead.
nologic02 3y ago
> The election definitely wasn't rigged, but if it had been necessary to do so I would have supported it. Can't ever repeat the disaster we had from 2016 - 2022 again. Ah yes, as a student of 1940s Jewish culture, I am quite fond of the "it didn't happen, but they deserved it" angle myself.
robador 3y ago
GOP made every effort to rig it, but failed.
Eggsellence 3y ago
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- SgtBastard 3y ago
  > I believe it was rigged Evidence: Trust me, bro.

olgeni 3y ago

> but if it had been necessary to do so I would have supported it. And this is not going to fuel more conspiracy theories, at all \o/

PrimeMcFly 3y ago
The people that fail to reason will continue to fail to reason regardless of any comment I make.
- w4ffl35 3y ago
  You stated you are in favor of rigging elections in order to prevent a person you don't want to be president to become president. Nothing you say on this topic is worth listening to.
  - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
    Not quite. It's not just about personal preferences. It's about someone who is a clear and present danger to our way of life and the security of the country.
    - deleted 3y ago
      [deleted]
    - w4ffl35 3y ago
      That is your personal opinion. A large potion of Americans feel differently than you. You may have strong feelings about this, but you aren't allowed to force an outcome on society because of it. You are advocating for fascism and rigged elections because you don't like a president's style.
      - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
        Those Americans are wrong, and most deserve the 'deplorable' moniker they were given. Most of them shouldn't have a right to vote in the first place IMO. And to downplay the issues as 'a president's style' is incredibly disingenuous.
        w4ffl35 3y ago
        These are simply more opinions and do not justify your desire to enact fascism via rigged elections.
        PrimeMcFly 3y ago
        No, not opinions. Demonstrable facts.
        ginsider_oaks 3y ago
        > Most of them shouldn't have a right to vote in the first place [in my opinion]. > > These are simply more opinions [...] > > > No, not opinions. Demonstrable facts. you're going to have to explain this one to me
        PrimeMcFly 3y ago
        Most of the positions of people who vote GOP are untenable and at odds with our current understanding. Denying climate change is a good example. Voting on that basis has, and will continue to have real damage for citizens of the country, and thus the country as an entity.
    - olgeni 3y ago
      > It's about someone who is a clear and present danger to our way of life and the security of the country. However, this mirrors what the QAnons and the hardline MAGAs say about Clinton and Biden. Or more or less what Bush used to tell about Saddam. It might be worth noticing.
      - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
        Only one side thought JFK was going to reappear. Only one side has a history of believing ridiculous claims with no evidence that repeatedly fail to bear fruit. Maybe that side should be taken less seriously.
        olgeni 3y ago
        Yes, and maybe we should also avoid parroting their rhetoric :D
        PrimeMcFly 3y ago
        Sure, I wouldn't and haven't done so. Was just refuting your point.

AllegedAlec 3y ago

"If democracy doesn't return the result we want we'll rig the system to return that result anyway"

glompers 3y ago
George Washington in his transfer of power farewell speech warned Americans to avoid factionalism, right? But never mind that. Our party base (true speaking for either franchise that extracts rents from the need for electoral viability now) are more patriotic than that dude. Or we only have to outrun the slower party in order to successfully outrun the grizzly bear of being less best for the country. No other accountability applies for very long if your faction can still pull back ahead as the better one for some projective new future of America, but both factions by their own definition will always outrun the other in that shadow race.
- PrimeMcFly 3y ago
  The problem is you have half the country severely lacking in education and their thoughts and ideas about what is best for the country don't correspond to reality.
  - georgeplusplus 3y ago
    And Whose reality exactly is that? Have you lived outside the US? Socialites in expensive lavish cities are the minority in the world by far. The majority is what you just described, poverty, and lack of education to start. To them you are like Maria Antoinette telling them just eat cake from your cushy little San Fran bubble.
    - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
      It's not anyone's reality, it's reality, period. Yes, I've lived outside the US - I'm not even from the US. I've lived in 5 different countries. I don't really care how it seems. Ignorance, and offense at having that ignorance called out, is not a sufficient reason to burn a country to the ground and violate the rights of citizens. If it were up to that poor uneducated half of the US, most of them would push for the US to be closer to Gilead.

nologic02 3y ago

> The election definitely wasn't rigged, but if it had been necessary to do so I would have supported it. Can't ever repeat the disaster we had from 2016 - 2022 again. Ah yes, as a student of 1940s Jewish culture, I am quite fond of the "it didn't happen, but they deserved it" angle myself.

robador 3y ago

GOP made every effort to rig it, but failed.

Eggsellence 3y ago

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SgtBastard 3y ago
> I believe it was rigged Evidence: Trust me, bro.