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Corporations from the perspective of most employees are communists dictatorships. Think about it: you use a communal means of production, distribute profits ce
by jiggawatts 3y ago
Corporations from the perspective of most employees are communists dictatorships.
Think about it: you use a communal means of production, distribute profits centrally, and you don’t get to vote for who gets to be your manager.
- uoaei 3y agoI guess misconceptions like these are why theorists abandoned the term 'communism' in favor of 'communalism' to explain what they meant. This isn't even a no-true-scotsman argument, but if all that comes to mind when communism comes up is Soviet dictatorship, the cold war propaganda worked.
- tilne 3y agoWhat should come to mind when communism comes up then?
- coxmi 3y agoSomething along the lines of: A socioeconomic order centered around common ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange that allocates products to everyone in the society based on need. I guess the point of the poster above is that the word communism just confuses things in the initial statement — it’s just a dictatorship. Socialists and communists fairly uniquely believe in workplace democracy.
- harimau777 3y agoA rule of thumb that makes sense to me is that communism generally differs from socialism in that it advocates one or more of the following: - People actually living and working in communes. - Abolition of private property (note: this is not the same as personal property). - Extreme redistribution and/or equality in wealth/income. I'm sure that this isn't a perfect heuristic; however, I think it's often useful for detecting when someone is trying to describe something as communism in order to make it look bad.
- darkwater 3y agoJust read your sibling comment, talking about gulags or it is not communism...
- harimau777 3y agoFor what it's worth, I understood the parent post to specifically be referring to instances like Stalinism, Maoism, etc. since it says specifically "communist dictatorship".
- uoaei 3y agoI suspect there was a sneaky edit between the time of my reply and the time you read it.
- Jensson 3y agoCommunism builds walls to prevent you from leaving and put you in labor camps if you refuse to do the work assigned to you. So they are not very comparable at all, consent makes a huge difference.
- harimau777 3y agoLeaving is often quite difficult because it means losing benefits and there are often not better alternatives.
- v-erne 3y agoPlaying devils advocate here - how this is inherent to communism? I would rather guess that this is emerged behaviour of any human system that is facing collapse and has no preventions build in. I could probably find a few not so great capitalistic systems results (even American flavoured ones) that had tendencies dangerously close to those you describe (ever heard about company stores ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_store https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_store).
- datavirtue 3y agoWalls like health insurance and references?