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A movie that had a strong influence on me when I saw it as a kid, creating a deep interest in computers. I also made up a quip long ago from it: Don't let your
by RagnarD 3y ago
A movie that had a strong influence on me when I saw it as a kid, creating a deep interest in computers.
I also made up a quip long ago from it: Don't let your AIs control nuclear weapons.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago>Don't let your AIs control nuclear weapons. But then a sufficiently sophisticated AI could just impersonate the president and tell the meat jarheads to fire the weapons. What then?
- WorldMaker 3y agoYou need to make sure some teenager somewhere is playing a lot of Tic-Tac-Toe with your AI.
- ArekDymalski 3y agoUnless the teenager's nickname is Ender.
- LoganDark 3y agoI should really check out Ender's Game one of these days.
- labster 3y agoDon’t let Marines have nuclear weapons either.
- RandomLensman 3y agoThen you put certain physical checks in place, not complicated (even a pass phrase only memorized works already).
- pixl97 3y ago>(even a pass phrase only memorized works already). That is so 2019... to make a quip We are already seeing what is tantamount to mind reading equipment https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ai-can-re-create-what-you-see-from-a-brain-scan/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ai-can-re-create-... At this point I pretty much imagine that some time in the future that you can be hooked to medical equipment and someone/something will state the following to you "Do not think of the nuclear weapon pass phrase" But you can't not think of it. The phrase clicks in your head and the electrical signals are picked up and decoded by the bedside computer. You've betrayed mankind. The nuclear war of the AI has begun.
- RandomLensman 3y agoThat is mostly BS on the mind reading so far, I am afraid.
- lifeisstillgood 3y agoYou might say that but four hollywood script writers have already pulled together treatments:-)
- LoganDark 3y ago> The phrase clicks in your head and the electrical signals are picked up and decoded by the bedside computer. It wouldn't even have to click in your head if a brain scan could model your entire consciousness and then simulate every possible interrogation method until something works. Even inputs that aren't currently possible for the body to report. Entire new levels of pain, intoxication, or anything.
- ben_w 3y agoIn principle impersonation is what "secret codes in a locked briefcase" defends against. Given PAL was allegedly all zeroes at one point, I assume the secret codes have at various times been 12345 and the birthday of the then-sitting president's current mistress; if so, it's only helping in principle.
- Yeul 3y agoThe "only the president can launch a nuclear strike" myth. If it was that easy you'd only need to blow up the White House with one nuke and take out America.
- ben_w 3y agoI'd assume the VP has their own nuclear suitcase. Unless they're forced to choose a random number, this probably makes impersonation easier as it's n points of failure where n is the number of people who have their own nuclear suitcase.
- Tangurena2 3y agoThere are "continuity of operations" procedures to prevent a "decapitation" strike killing the President & VP, thus preventing the US from retaliating [0]. This was a plot point in Tom Clancy's novel Debt of Honor [1] (which I distinctly remember reading right before 911, as I had to commute via public transit and commutes were so long I read books). 0 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Designated_survivor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Designated_survivor Since this person will be offsite in a secure facility/bunker, they'll have the backup nuclear football with them. 1 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debt_of_Honor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debt_of_Honor Which is how Jack Ryan gets "promoted" to President.
- Yeul 3y agoI watched Dr Strangelove and they already made a joke about this in the 1950s- even before ICBMs.
- omnibrain 3y agoFor me it was the same with WarGames.
- cduzz 3y agoIMO the "3 rules" ought to be: 1. don't give your robot a gun. 2. don't teach it how to put more bullets into the gun you just gave it. 3. don't teach it how to make bullets after teaching it how to reload the gun.
- nirav72 3y agoI think an AI could model and figure out #2 and #3. Since they’re just problems of physics. So it should be just rule #1 that needs to be embedded.
- jareklupinski 3y agorule 0: don't give it a reason to pull the trigger
- mindcrime 3y ago> Don't let your AIs control nuclear weapons. I don't know if you wanna entrust the safety of our country to some silicon diode.