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Says Netanyahu: To the citizens of Gaza, I say. You must leave now. We will target each and every corner of the strip.” Edited to remove false quote

by oa335 3y ago

tmnvix 3y ago
How do they leave?
- oa335 3y ago
  They can’t, Israel imposes a blockade on their movement across the borders.
  - sdossick 3y ago
    So does Egypt. It's not only the Israelis who are afraid of Hamas and Islamic Jihad.
    - elashri 3y ago
      As an Egyptian, we are not afraid of Palestinians moving to Sinai [1]. Neither they want to leave their lands so that they will lose it forever. The last time they were told to leave it for a little then come back was in 1948. Will, they are waiting until now. Hint: I welcome the downvotes. HN is majority US members who are historically (The Majority) pro Israeli point of view of everything. I understand that [1] Maybe the regime is (but people in the Middle East are ruled by dictators who do not represent people's view either if they are Iran, Egypt or others)
      - 2Gkashmiri 3y ago
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      - tguvot 3y ago
        i do remember egypt been rather unhappy when all of sudden weapons started to flow from gaza back to sinai to isis/muslim brotherhood/etc. and some personal as well
- chatmasta 3y ago
  Apparently there are designated areas where IDF instructed them to go. But that's all I could glean based on a brief sentence in a CNN article that didn't elaborate on the details. It's certainly a good question...
  - 2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago
    https://nitter.net/Osinttechnical/status/1710794984322916572 https://nitter.net/Osinttechnical/status/1710794984322916572 > The IDF has issued specific instructions for residents in 7 areas of the Gaza Strip to evacuate to predetermined points. Targeted text messages are also outgoing.
- bigbillheck 3y ago
  [flagged]
eurleif 3y ago
>We will turn Gaza into a deserted island. Looks like this may be a fake quote. Al Jazeera[0] is the only source I can find. Meanwhile, Politico[1] and other sources have a markedly different quote: "All the places where Hamas hides, operates from — we will turn them into cities of ruins." [0] https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/7/world-is-watching-fears-grow-of-a-massive-gaza-invasion-by-israel https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/7/world-is-watching-f... [1] https://www.politico.eu/article/israels-netanyahu-vows-mighty-vengeance-against-hamas-after-attack/ https://www.politico.eu/article/israels-netanyahu-vows-might...
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- oa335 3y ago
  “I'm telling the people of Gaza: get out of there now, because we're about to act everywhere with all our force," from Agence France-Presse, via Barrons. https://www.barrons.com/news/israel-pm-vows-to-turn-gaza-s-hamas-hideouts-into-rubble-6be65e2d https://www.barrons.com/news/israel-pm-vows-to-turn-gaza-s-h...
  - eurleif 3y ago
    Is not: "We will turn Gaza into a deserted island." Indeed, the corresponding part of the quote as Barron's has it is consistent with Politico's version, not with Al Jazeera's: "All the places in which Hamas is based, in this city of evil, all the places Hamas is hiding in, acting from -- we'll turn them into rubble."
  - riku_iki 3y ago
    there are many videos of Netanyahu speach today, including afp youtube channel, I couldn't locate this phrase.
- edanm 3y ago
  This is kind of interesting. Netanyahu used an expression that I wasn't sure about, עיי חורבות, which actually sounds a lot like "Destroyed islands". I looked it up and apparently it just means "ruins", but I wonder if the first translation just misheard/misunderstood what he said.
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riku_iki 3y ago
> Edited to remove false quote looks like your quote is still fake and not supported by reliable source.
- oa335 3y ago
  It’s in this speech: https://youtu.be/jeZJulgUuD8?si=Yfy2Y4Np3ws9hwjg&t=101 https://youtu.be/jeZJulgUuD8?si=Yfy2Y4Np3ws9hwjg&t=101
  - eurleif 3y ago
    The English subtitle "we will operate forcefully everywhere" has a very different meaning from your quote: "We will target each and every corner of the strip."
    - oa335 3y ago
      What is the difference in the meaning?
      - eurleif 3y ago
        "Target each and every corner of the strip" implies the strip as a whole is the target. "Operate forcefully everywhere" merely implies that force will be brought everywhere in the strip against whatever the target may be (from context, Hamas).
  - riku_iki 3y ago
    "operate everywhere" and "target each and every corner of the strip" are different citation, also do you speak Jewish or you relied on youtube autotranslate captions with questionable quality?
    - CaptainNegative 3y ago
      I speak Hebrew. The direct translation is "we will operate everywhere and with full force".
tguvot 3y ago
this is still false quote. i saw him speaking live. he said to get out of the locations that are known to population as hamas/etc compounds, warehouses, etc. . כל המקומות שהחמאס מסתתר בהם ופועל בתוכם - נהפוך אותם לעיי חורבות. אני אומר לתושבי עזה, צאו משם עכשיו.
botanical 3y ago
And go where? Apartheid Israel has them interned with nowhere to go.
- koheripbal 3y ago
  Gaza borders Egypt and the Mediterranean.
  - botanical 3y ago
    They are blockaded from the sea by Apartheid Israel: https://www.ochaopt.org/sites/default/files/styles/inline100_standard/public/images/gaza2.png https://www.ochaopt.org/sites/default/files/styles/inline100... Egypt is allied with the US who give them billions to keep it locked.

Says Netanyahu: To the citizens of Gaza, I say. You must leave now. We will target each and every corner of the strip.” Edited to remove false quote

by oa335 3y ago

Says Netanyahu: To the citizens of Gaza, I say. You must leave now. We will target each and every corner of the strip.” Edited to remove false quote

tmnvix 3y ago

How do they leave?

oa335 3y ago
They can’t, Israel imposes a blockade on their movement across the borders.
- sdossick 3y ago
  So does Egypt. It's not only the Israelis who are afraid of Hamas and Islamic Jihad.
  - elashri 3y ago
    As an Egyptian, we are not afraid of Palestinians moving to Sinai [1]. Neither they want to leave their lands so that they will lose it forever. The last time they were told to leave it for a little then come back was in 1948. Will, they are waiting until now. Hint: I welcome the downvotes. HN is majority US members who are historically (The Majority) pro Israeli point of view of everything. I understand that [1] Maybe the regime is (but people in the Middle East are ruled by dictators who do not represent people's view either if they are Iran, Egypt or others)
    - 2Gkashmiri 3y ago
      [flagged]
    - tguvot 3y ago
      i do remember egypt been rather unhappy when all of sudden weapons started to flow from gaza back to sinai to isis/muslim brotherhood/etc. and some personal as well
chatmasta 3y ago
Apparently there are designated areas where IDF instructed them to go. But that's all I could glean based on a brief sentence in a CNN article that didn't elaborate on the details. It's certainly a good question...
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago
  https://nitter.net/Osinttechnical/status/1710794984322916572 https://nitter.net/Osinttechnical/status/1710794984322916572 > The IDF has issued specific instructions for residents in 7 areas of the Gaza Strip to evacuate to predetermined points. Targeted text messages are also outgoing.
bigbillheck 3y ago
[flagged]

eurleif 3y ago

>We will turn Gaza into a deserted island. Looks like this may be a fake quote. Al Jazeera[0] is the only source I can find. Meanwhile, Politico[1] and other sources have a markedly different quote: "All the places where Hamas hides, operates from — we will turn them into cities of ruins." [0] https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/7/world-is-watching-fears-grow-of-a-massive-gaza-invasion-by-israel https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/7/world-is-watching-f... [1] https://www.politico.eu/article/israels-netanyahu-vows-mighty-vengeance-against-hamas-after-attack/ https://www.politico.eu/article/israels-netanyahu-vows-might...

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oa335 3y ago
“I'm telling the people of Gaza: get out of there now, because we're about to act everywhere with all our force," from Agence France-Presse, via Barrons. https://www.barrons.com/news/israel-pm-vows-to-turn-gaza-s-hamas-hideouts-into-rubble-6be65e2d https://www.barrons.com/news/israel-pm-vows-to-turn-gaza-s-h...
- eurleif 3y ago
  Is not: "We will turn Gaza into a deserted island." Indeed, the corresponding part of the quote as Barron's has it is consistent with Politico's version, not with Al Jazeera's: "All the places in which Hamas is based, in this city of evil, all the places Hamas is hiding in, acting from -- we'll turn them into rubble."
- riku_iki 3y ago
  there are many videos of Netanyahu speach today, including afp youtube channel, I couldn't locate this phrase.
edanm 3y ago
This is kind of interesting. Netanyahu used an expression that I wasn't sure about, עיי חורבות, which actually sounds a lot like "Destroyed islands". I looked it up and apparently it just means "ruins", but I wonder if the first translation just misheard/misunderstood what he said.

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riku_iki 3y ago

> Edited to remove false quote looks like your quote is still fake and not supported by reliable source.

oa335 3y ago
It’s in this speech: https://youtu.be/jeZJulgUuD8?si=Yfy2Y4Np3ws9hwjg&t=101 https://youtu.be/jeZJulgUuD8?si=Yfy2Y4Np3ws9hwjg&t=101
- eurleif 3y ago
  The English subtitle "we will operate forcefully everywhere" has a very different meaning from your quote: "We will target each and every corner of the strip."
  - oa335 3y ago
    What is the difference in the meaning?
    - eurleif 3y ago
      "Target each and every corner of the strip" implies the strip as a whole is the target. "Operate forcefully everywhere" merely implies that force will be brought everywhere in the strip against whatever the target may be (from context, Hamas).
- riku_iki 3y ago
  "operate everywhere" and "target each and every corner of the strip" are different citation, also do you speak Jewish or you relied on youtube autotranslate captions with questionable quality?
  - CaptainNegative 3y ago
    I speak Hebrew. The direct translation is "we will operate everywhere and with full force".

tguvot 3y ago

this is still false quote. i saw him speaking live. he said to get out of the locations that are known to population as hamas/etc compounds, warehouses, etc. . כל המקומות שהחמאס מסתתר בהם ופועל בתוכם - נהפוך אותם לעיי חורבות. אני אומר לתושבי עזה, צאו משם עכשיו.

botanical 3y ago

And go where? Apartheid Israel has them interned with nowhere to go.

koheripbal 3y ago
Gaza borders Egypt and the Mediterranean.
- botanical 3y ago
  They are blockaded from the sea by Apartheid Israel: https://www.ochaopt.org/sites/default/files/styles/inline100_standard/public/images/gaza2.png https://www.ochaopt.org/sites/default/files/styles/inline100... Egypt is allied with the US who give them billions to keep it locked.