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If hotels were to explicitly promise “home-grade” Internet service then they would seal the deal for me. They’ve improved a lot in recent years but I’d still w

If hotels were to explicitly promise “home-grade” Internet service then they would seal the deal for me. They’ve improved a lot in recent years but I’d still want to have that explicit guarantee.

iLoveOncall 3y ago
I haven't stayed (in Europe) in an Airbnb that didn't have shitty internet. Nowadays they're all made exclusively as investements, not as people sharing their own apartment anymore, so they get the cheapest connection they can get away with.
- brandall10 3y ago
  Just got back from Europe where I stayed at 9 AirBnbs. I do Speedtests whenever I get to a new location. Only 2 were not getting at least 10 Mbps, and IIRC 5 got 50+. 3 that I got in France were in shared apartments.
- secabeen 3y ago
  > Nowadays they're all made exclusively as investements, not as people sharing their own apartment anymore, so they get the cheapest connection they can get away with. It is possible to dig deeply when reviewing AirBNBs to see how many units the host has, if they're associated with corporate owners. It takes more time, but it is still possible to find people renting parts of their home like it was originally.
arwhatever 3y ago
My personal background is that I’ve lived in airbnbs for >3 yrs full time around the pandemic. Early in my experience, I had the internet crap out at one place and the host wasn’t responsive to fixing it, so I petitioned Airbnb support to cancel my reservation. They did so on the grounds that I had happened to ask the host about the quality of their WiFi prior to booking and was assured that it would be solid. Since then, I always make a point to give the host a minor 3rd degree about the WiFi quality prior to booking, and have gone years without major trouble. Hotel WiFi reliability has improved greatly during that time, but I need some sort of explicit guarantee from them before I would make the transition to more hotel stays.
- ghaff 3y ago
  I couldn't give you an ironclad guarantee at my house. It's almost always quite good but it goes down from time to time. Major hotel chains are pretty good these days (generally). B&B's/small inns are pretty hit or miss.
  - arwhatever 3y ago
    I understand. I did stay in one place where a bulldozer dug a trench and broke the line to the place. It was repaired in a day, and I just rolled with as something that happens in life. Rather than an ironclad guarantee that the internet will 100% stay functional, more precisely what I want is a guarantee that the host will be approximately as responsive to outages as I myself would be were it my own internet at my own home, which is the best that anyone can realistically do. I suppose if someone’s internet went down for weeks I might have to opt out of the reservation, which isn’t totally fair to the host if it’s not their fault and it’s beyond their control. But also that has never happened, and it similarly wouldn’t be totally fair to me if the internet were to go down at my own home and I had to rent a coworking space for an extended period.

iLoveOncall 3y ago

I haven't stayed (in Europe) in an Airbnb that didn't have shitty internet. Nowadays they're all made exclusively as investements, not as people sharing their own apartment anymore, so they get the cheapest connection they can get away with.

brandall10 3y ago
Just got back from Europe where I stayed at 9 AirBnbs. I do Speedtests whenever I get to a new location. Only 2 were not getting at least 10 Mbps, and IIRC 5 got 50+. 3 that I got in France were in shared apartments.
secabeen 3y ago
> Nowadays they're all made exclusively as investements, not as people sharing their own apartment anymore, so they get the cheapest connection they can get away with. It is possible to dig deeply when reviewing AirBNBs to see how many units the host has, if they're associated with corporate owners. It takes more time, but it is still possible to find people renting parts of their home like it was originally.

arwhatever 3y ago

My personal background is that I’ve lived in airbnbs for >3 yrs full time around the pandemic. Early in my experience, I had the internet crap out at one place and the host wasn’t responsive to fixing it, so I petitioned Airbnb support to cancel my reservation. They did so on the grounds that I had happened to ask the host about the quality of their WiFi prior to booking and was assured that it would be solid. Since then, I always make a point to give the host a minor 3rd degree about the WiFi quality prior to booking, and have gone years without major trouble. Hotel WiFi reliability has improved greatly during that time, but I need some sort of explicit guarantee from them before I would make the transition to more hotel stays.

ghaff 3y ago
I couldn't give you an ironclad guarantee at my house. It's almost always quite good but it goes down from time to time. Major hotel chains are pretty good these days (generally). B&B's/small inns are pretty hit or miss.
- arwhatever 3y ago
  I understand. I did stay in one place where a bulldozer dug a trench and broke the line to the place. It was repaired in a day, and I just rolled with as something that happens in life. Rather than an ironclad guarantee that the internet will 100% stay functional, more precisely what I want is a guarantee that the host will be approximately as responsive to outages as I myself would be were it my own internet at my own home, which is the best that anyone can realistically do. I suppose if someone’s internet went down for weeks I might have to opt out of the reservation, which isn’t totally fair to the host if it’s not their fault and it’s beyond their control. But also that has never happened, and it similarly wouldn’t be totally fair to me if the internet were to go down at my own home and I had to rent a coworking space for an extended period.