> Code is usually a much smaller piece of company's business process than we developers like to think. I agree. Btw, I think you inverted the meaning of my se

> Code is usually a much smaller piece of company's business process than we developers like to think. I agree. Btw, I think you inverted the meaning of my sentence regarding 'hand over fist'. I was saying that staying on an old version is asking for trouble and is going to cost a lot more than upgrading. > That's the reality which JVM and Clojure folks take very seriously, but is very often overlooked by younger people. Ah, the irony of being called young because of a comment I made :). I'm an old hand at this point. FWIW, my shop also stayed on JDK 8 for a bit longer than we should have, but that was largely because of upstream dependencies. We're currently on JDK11, but again just because there are some upstream dependencies that are holding us back from JDK17. (It's mostly to do with the infamous module system change. It's a good change overall, but some projects have been super-slow to adapt.)