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Been working in flash since version 2 and years ago I wrote a 3d engine in flash mx by duplicating and scaling right angled triangles to draw all the polygons.

by ktizo 15y ago

Been working in flash since version 2 and years ago I wrote a 3d engine in flash mx by duplicating and scaling right angled triangles to draw all the polygons. Professionally, I am often the person who recommends what technologies get used when a site gets made. And I very much doubt with this recent news from adobe that I will bother to use flash for a commercial project ever again. Especially given what you can get canvas tags to do these days.

jlarocco 15y ago
That's nice of you, but honestly I doubt this will have a very big impact. Flash support has been poor on Linux for a very long time. For example, 64-bit Linux desktops have been popular for most of the last decade, and I'm not sure there's ever been an official 64-bit release. Sure, it's been possible to get it working, but it's a hassle. The poor Linux support is one of the main reasons so many Linux users dislike Flash and are always saying how it needs an open source alternative version. Since Linux support has never been a big deal for people choosing Flash in the past, I can't see this having a big impact on their decisions now.
- dfc 15y ago
  FYI: Flash for 64bit linux has existed for a while now. The first release was sometime around the financial crisi, I think october of 2008.
  - jlarocco 15y ago
    Yeah, I know it exists. And before it existed you could hack up the 32-bit Flash to work in 64-bit browsers. The point is, it being a PITA to use Flash on Linux never stopped many developers from creating pages that required it, so it's unlikely to stop them from creating Flash pages now.
    - ktizo 15y ago
      Is a trajectory issue. When flash was expanding the range of systems it could be run on, then the future looked rosy for it as a delivery platform. Currently however it seems to be contracting on all fronts, while at the same time adobe is making life more difficult for the developers by giving them extra costs. So the trajectory really does not look good at this point.
    - dfc 15y ago
      You said "I'm not sure there's ever been an official 64-bit release" when there has been an official release for a while now. So you can understand why I might have thought you did not know an official release existed? It has not been a pain in the ass on amd64 since the fall of 2008.
- jiggy2011 15y ago
  That's true, when I started using Linux there was no flash support at all, literally nothing. That did not stop large numbers of sites being built around it though.

by ktizo 15y ago

jlarocco 15y ago

That's nice of you, but honestly I doubt this will have a very big impact. Flash support has been poor on Linux for a very long time. For example, 64-bit Linux desktops have been popular for most of the last decade, and I'm not sure there's ever been an official 64-bit release. Sure, it's been possible to get it working, but it's a hassle. The poor Linux support is one of the main reasons so many Linux users dislike Flash and are always saying how it needs an open source alternative version. Since Linux support has never been a big deal for people choosing Flash in the past, I can't see this having a big impact on their decisions now.

dfc 15y ago
FYI: Flash for 64bit linux has existed for a while now. The first release was sometime around the financial crisi, I think october of 2008.
- jlarocco 15y ago
  Yeah, I know it exists. And before it existed you could hack up the 32-bit Flash to work in 64-bit browsers. The point is, it being a PITA to use Flash on Linux never stopped many developers from creating pages that required it, so it's unlikely to stop them from creating Flash pages now.
  - ktizo 15y ago
    Is a trajectory issue. When flash was expanding the range of systems it could be run on, then the future looked rosy for it as a delivery platform. Currently however it seems to be contracting on all fronts, while at the same time adobe is making life more difficult for the developers by giving them extra costs. So the trajectory really does not look good at this point.
  - dfc 15y ago
    You said "I'm not sure there's ever been an official 64-bit release" when there has been an official release for a while now. So you can understand why I might have thought you did not know an official release existed? It has not been a pain in the ass on amd64 since the fall of 2008.
jiggy2011 15y ago
That's true, when I started using Linux there was no flash support at all, literally nothing. That did not stop large numbers of sites being built around it though.