Comments like that are hard to respond to. The topic here is KiCAD, but you haven’t addressed whether you have given KiCAD 7 (or 6) a real try. Without that inf

Comments like that are hard to respond to. The topic here is KiCAD, but you haven’t addressed whether you have given KiCAD 7 (or 6) a real try. Without that information, and without understanding what you didn't like about KiCAD, it’s hard to address these other options, and you don’t really even mention what you actually like about DipTrace. “Intuitive” and “easy to pickup” are arguably properties of KiCAD, for anyone familiar with schematic capture and PCB design. It used to be harder, but tons of effort has been poured into KiCAD for many years now. Why would anyone want to use an old, proprietary program like DipTrace when KiCAD is free, cross-platform, open source, and arguably just plain better? DipTrace has a Mac version, but all of the discussions I see online indicate that it still hasn’t been updated to work properly on Apple Silicon. It’s been probably 7 or 8 years since I last saw someone using DipTrace, and I wasn’t impressed then. It’s also $995 for the full version (the closest to KiCAD’s feature set), which is hardly “far less” than $1000, but the absolute minimum version I would even consider would be $400. I’m amazed at how their website seems to be exactly as I remember it from so long ago. Looking through their marketing site, I literally don’t see a single thing that is better than KiCAD. I personally just don’t understand why anyone would buy DipTrace in 2023. So, it’s hard to respond without just coming off as dismissive. I wish I could provide a more balanced comment that makes it seem like DipTrace is still competitive, well-maintained software… but that isn’t what I believe. I’m sure it’s fine for basic use cases, but KiCAD is great for those use cases and so much more. Flux seems gimmicky at first, but browsing through their materials, I am at least impressed at the effort they seem to be putting in. They even had a comparison page against KiCAD, but this attempt to sell against KiCAD ended up being some disappointing nebulous statements that didn’t seem to have much merit, apart from the real time collaborative nature of their product, which seems to be their one actual advantage. Different people can have different opinions, of course, but KiCAD is great quality software with a lot of momentum. If you want to share what features you like most about DipTrace, or what you think it does better than KiCAD, that would certainly be interesting to hear.