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> Ukraine/Russia usually doesn’t gather much traction. Plain wrong. The story of Russia attacking Ukraine on 2022.02.14 has 1894 comments [0] [0] https://news

by lr1970 3y ago

> Ukraine/Russia usually doesn’t gather much traction. Plain wrong. The story of Russia attacking Ukraine on 2022.02.14 has 1894 comments [0] [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30450336 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30450336

melling 3y ago
I see that it was discussed at the time. I was referring to the many posts that I see about Ukraine with few upvotes. The ones that seem to get upvoted are about Elon Musk or Starlink. At any rate, I suppose if someone says something that gains the interest of the community, it will get traction. The first few comments might be important. The one in your link was interesting because it was a 20 year old prediction: “In his 1997 book The Grand Chessboard Zbigniew Brzezinski did say that if Europe went to war again it would start in Ukraine.” This post, for example, didn’t develop an interesting discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37800508 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37800508
hindsightbias 3y ago
That was new and unique. It had huge economic and strategic implications. This is the same old tiresome story. No more relevant to our daily lives than war in Sudan, Libya, Syria, quakes in Afghanistan etc.
- reducesuffering 3y ago
  This is actually a major historical development in world geopolitics. Israel and Saudi Arabia were planning on normalizing relations, with deal implications like a US security guarantee bringing Saudi closer into the western fold. With Saudi’s statement blaming Israel, those plans are effectively nixed and the future world stage will look different because of how much middle eastern alliances still matter.
  - hindsightbias 3y ago
    Bringing MBS closer to the western fold. The Saudi’s don’t need a US security guarantee. They’ve had one since the 40’s. We literally fight their wars for them and they strangle us whenever they like raising oil prices. I guess it will bring another round for Jared to rake in a few more billion, so good.
    - reducesuffering 3y ago
      Not quite because the US actually strongly opposes the security guarantee in the negotiations. Saudi wants it. Agree that they raise oil prices to suit themselves, and are generally a shite ally. Jared getting $2b by abusing the White House positions is very sad too.
- rocknor 3y ago
  You are not as important as you think you are. Not all HN users are in America/Europe, stupidly ignorant about the rest of the world. To us, Ukraine/Russia is the same old tiresome story.

by lr1970 3y ago

melling 3y ago

I see that it was discussed at the time. I was referring to the many posts that I see about Ukraine with few upvotes. The ones that seem to get upvoted are about Elon Musk or Starlink. At any rate, I suppose if someone says something that gains the interest of the community, it will get traction. The first few comments might be important. The one in your link was interesting because it was a 20 year old prediction: “In his 1997 book The Grand Chessboard Zbigniew Brzezinski did say that if Europe went to war again it would start in Ukraine.” This post, for example, didn’t develop an interesting discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37800508 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37800508

hindsightbias 3y ago

That was new and unique. It had huge economic and strategic implications. This is the same old tiresome story. No more relevant to our daily lives than war in Sudan, Libya, Syria, quakes in Afghanistan etc.

reducesuffering 3y ago
This is actually a major historical development in world geopolitics. Israel and Saudi Arabia were planning on normalizing relations, with deal implications like a US security guarantee bringing Saudi closer into the western fold. With Saudi’s statement blaming Israel, those plans are effectively nixed and the future world stage will look different because of how much middle eastern alliances still matter.
- hindsightbias 3y ago
  Bringing MBS closer to the western fold. The Saudi’s don’t need a US security guarantee. They’ve had one since the 40’s. We literally fight their wars for them and they strangle us whenever they like raising oil prices. I guess it will bring another round for Jared to rake in a few more billion, so good.
  - reducesuffering 3y ago
    Not quite because the US actually strongly opposes the security guarantee in the negotiations. Saudi wants it. Agree that they raise oil prices to suit themselves, and are generally a shite ally. Jared getting $2b by abusing the White House positions is very sad too.
rocknor 3y ago
You are not as important as you think you are. Not all HN users are in America/Europe, stupidly ignorant about the rest of the world. To us, Ukraine/Russia is the same old tiresome story.