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Sounds good to me. But you need to have ownership documents for it and means for transport. I’ll trade anytime.

vel0city 3y ago
Why should I provide your means of transport? Did the person you bought your home from provide you transport as well? You're getting so much extra land! You figure out how to make it useful. Sure seems like you don't actually want it if you need me to subsidize you by billions of dollars to use it. Maybe it's not a great deal? Maybe there's a reason why the Israelis and Palestinians are fighting over that land instead of just flying off to another planet. Not that I agree with the violence, but suggesting they just go colonize another planet instead isn't really a good answer.
- gumballindie 3y ago
  I dont know in which country you live in but in some you cant sell land without an access path. And since i cant simply walk to it you’d have to ensure that there are other means to get there. Also that’s part of the deal - cant provide it you wont get my house in return.
  - vel0city 3y ago
    OK, I'll work with the FAA to make sure you can launch your rockets no problem. Then the path is just up! Problem solved. Or I dunno, just jump really high. After all you're expecting the Palestinians or Israelis to get there on their own, it can't be that complicated right? Just colonize space, NBD. Then the path is just up! Problem solved. Sure sounds like you're valuing your house billions and billions of dollars more than the land on Pluto. But why? There's so much space to colonize! Maybe telling people to just go to space instead of fighting for a place on Earth to live isn't a great idea huh? Maybe some places are better than others to live?
    - gumballindie 3y ago
      > Sure sounds like you're valuing your house billions and billions of dollars more than the land on Pluto. But why? There's so much space to colonize I am advocating for peace not communism. It’s a free market and thats what i want in return for my property. No need to play hardball. Take it or leave it. I’m happy to leave for greener (well white-tan-brownish) pastures to make room for you. Find me transport and the house is yours.
      - vel0city 3y ago
        Your point was: > We have like endless space to colonise yet we fight for land here on earth And yet you want so many billions of dollars in compensation in equipment to get you to your new homeland instead of just going there on your own. Why are you going to fight me to get what you consider fair compensation for your land on earth from me when I'm offering you so much on Pluto? There's so much land out there, a fair trade for your land should be near zero dollars right? After all there's nearly infinite supply! Quit being so attached to your home.
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- nemo44x 3y ago
  Yeah that’s the whole problem really. It’s not arbitrary land they’re fighting over. It’s that land and it can be no other land. I don’t know how it resolves in any way we find tasteful by modern standards.
  - hackerlight 3y ago
    Moreover, even if the land wasn't perceived to be special, you can't uproot an entire society without forced ethnic cleansing. It is impossible to get all X million people to agree to that without force.
  - vel0city 3y ago
    Yeah right? Like you could gift either side the equivalent or even double acerage of California or some other prime real estate in the Mediterranean or anywhere else on the planet and it wouldn't make a difference, God wills each side to have that land, each one has ancestors who laid claim to those specific hills for hundreds of years.
    - AlexCoventry 3y ago
      The original Zionists were more pragmatic than that. Herzl was considering Uganda at one point. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda_Scheme#%22A_very_land_for_Dr._Herzl%22 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda_Scheme#%22A_very_land_f...
      - 2rsf 3y ago
        According to a podcast I recently listened to this is not entirely accurate. Herzl did consider Uganda, but not too seriously and it is assumed that he used it to raise support for the idea of a national jewish home and not to actually go there.

Why should I provide your means of transport? Did the person you bought your home from provide you transport as well? You're getting so much extra land! You figure out how to make it useful. Sure seems like you don't actually want it if you need me to subsidize you by billions of dollars to use it. Maybe it's not a great deal? Maybe there's a reason why the Israelis and Palestinians are fighting over that land instead of just flying off to another planet. Not that I agree with the violence, but suggesting they just go colonize another planet instead isn't really a good answer.

gumballindie 3y ago
I dont know in which country you live in but in some you cant sell land without an access path. And since i cant simply walk to it you’d have to ensure that there are other means to get there. Also that’s part of the deal - cant provide it you wont get my house in return.
- vel0city 3y ago
  OK, I'll work with the FAA to make sure you can launch your rockets no problem. Then the path is just up! Problem solved. Or I dunno, just jump really high. After all you're expecting the Palestinians or Israelis to get there on their own, it can't be that complicated right? Just colonize space, NBD. Then the path is just up! Problem solved. Sure sounds like you're valuing your house billions and billions of dollars more than the land on Pluto. But why? There's so much space to colonize! Maybe telling people to just go to space instead of fighting for a place on Earth to live isn't a great idea huh? Maybe some places are better than others to live?
  - gumballindie 3y ago
    > Sure sounds like you're valuing your house billions and billions of dollars more than the land on Pluto. But why? There's so much space to colonize I am advocating for peace not communism. It’s a free market and thats what i want in return for my property. No need to play hardball. Take it or leave it. I’m happy to leave for greener (well white-tan-brownish) pastures to make room for you. Find me transport and the house is yours.
    - vel0city 3y ago
      Your point was: > We have like endless space to colonise yet we fight for land here on earth And yet you want so many billions of dollars in compensation in equipment to get you to your new homeland instead of just going there on your own. Why are you going to fight me to get what you consider fair compensation for your land on earth from me when I'm offering you so much on Pluto? There's so much land out there, a fair trade for your land should be near zero dollars right? After all there's nearly infinite supply! Quit being so attached to your home.
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nemo44x 3y ago
Yeah that’s the whole problem really. It’s not arbitrary land they’re fighting over. It’s that land and it can be no other land. I don’t know how it resolves in any way we find tasteful by modern standards.
- hackerlight 3y ago
  Moreover, even if the land wasn't perceived to be special, you can't uproot an entire society without forced ethnic cleansing. It is impossible to get all X million people to agree to that without force.
- vel0city 3y ago
  Yeah right? Like you could gift either side the equivalent or even double acerage of California or some other prime real estate in the Mediterranean or anywhere else on the planet and it wouldn't make a difference, God wills each side to have that land, each one has ancestors who laid claim to those specific hills for hundreds of years.
  - AlexCoventry 3y ago
    The original Zionists were more pragmatic than that. Herzl was considering Uganda at one point. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda_Scheme#%22A_very_land_for_Dr._Herzl%22 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda_Scheme#%22A_very_land_f...
    - 2rsf 3y ago
      According to a podcast I recently listened to this is not entirely accurate. Herzl did consider Uganda, but not too seriously and it is assumed that he used it to raise support for the idea of a national jewish home and not to actually go there.