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https://www.securitymagazine.com/articles/85929-coca-cola-sued-faces-lawsuit-over-unencrypted-laptop-data-theft https://www.securitymagazine.com/articles/85929-

https://www.securitymagazine.com/articles/85929-coca-cola-sued-faces-lawsuit-over-unencrypted-laptop-data-theft https://www.securitymagazine.com/articles/85929-coca-cola-su... The notorious Oracle lawyers must've put a bunch of legalese in the employment agreement that any failures to secure the laptop can result in liability to Oracle.

sys_64738 3y ago
You'd think but you'd be wrong. Oracle isn't nearly as oppressive as people on the outside are desperate to believe.
- belltaco 3y ago
  Yeah no, they contacted us for an audit because a few people had the previously free and confusingly licensed JVM installed, and wanted us to pay for licenses for all thousands of employees. Just dealing with them cost us significant resources. The reputation is well deserved, I will never touch an Oracle product and will try to stay away from Java as well. Don't believe me? Here's another example https://old.reddit.com//r/sysadmin/comments/165kzxg/oraclejava_is_knocking_at_my_companys_door_and/ https://old.reddit.com//r/sysadmin/comments/165kzxg/oracleja... > Oracle isn't nearly as oppressive as people on the outside are desperate to believe. Why are you so desperate to believe this is normal? I dealt with dozens of software vendors and even Microsoft was nowhere near as bad even when they found actual widespread piracy of their products in an overseas sister company that we don't control. They made sure the used products got paid for and went away.
  - sys_64738 3y ago
    Hang on. You're the one who said "notorious Oracle lawyers" when I told you Oracle employees can use their own laptops for business use. Now I'm "desperate"? I think you're confused.
    - belltaco 3y ago
      Not surprised Oracle is trying to save a buck on laptops and exposing both the company and employees to potential liability and not following basic security practices.
      - sys_64738 3y ago
        Your mind is already made up so this is a waste of time.

sys_64738 3y ago

You'd think but you'd be wrong. Oracle isn't nearly as oppressive as people on the outside are desperate to believe.

belltaco 3y ago
Yeah no, they contacted us for an audit because a few people had the previously free and confusingly licensed JVM installed, and wanted us to pay for licenses for all thousands of employees. Just dealing with them cost us significant resources. The reputation is well deserved, I will never touch an Oracle product and will try to stay away from Java as well. Don't believe me? Here's another example https://old.reddit.com//r/sysadmin/comments/165kzxg/oraclejava_is_knocking_at_my_companys_door_and/ https://old.reddit.com//r/sysadmin/comments/165kzxg/oracleja... > Oracle isn't nearly as oppressive as people on the outside are desperate to believe. Why are you so desperate to believe this is normal? I dealt with dozens of software vendors and even Microsoft was nowhere near as bad even when they found actual widespread piracy of their products in an overseas sister company that we don't control. They made sure the used products got paid for and went away.
- sys_64738 3y ago
  Hang on. You're the one who said "notorious Oracle lawyers" when I told you Oracle employees can use their own laptops for business use. Now I'm "desperate"? I think you're confused.
  - belltaco 3y ago
    Not surprised Oracle is trying to save a buck on laptops and exposing both the company and employees to potential liability and not following basic security practices.
    - sys_64738 3y ago
      Your mind is already made up so this is a waste of time.