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Darkly ironic that this article is paywalled

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1970-01-01 3y ago
Also, they rap on the Internet when they really mean World Wide Web. The Internet is fantastic. The Web has never been worse.
- bigstrat2003 3y ago
  For all but the most dedicated pedants, those terms are synonymous.
  - alangibson 3y ago
    For most normies "internet" is synonymous with their favorite social media site and maybe Google. I've been talking to quite a few Zoomers lately about the Internet. Not a single one of them knew what the WWW was. They though it was basically something Google made. The important social media apps (Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, and to a lesser degree Twitter) are barely part of the Web. They mostly treat the WWW as a minor traffic acquisition platform.
    - ericfrazier 3y ago
      Reddit is in that list and I have to imagine a lot of their traffic is still WWW
  - smrtinsert 3y ago
    standingovation.gif
  - yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
    If you'll forgive my quoting xkcd, > but as I see it "pedantic" is just a euphemism for "correct in a way I don't like". And this is HN; if you want to use words incorrectly and not get called on it, this is a bad place to post.
tlogan 3y ago
I think more paywalls is actually going to make internet better.
- botanical 3y ago
  From what I've noticed, paywalled sites are echo chambers to whatever audience the site is catering to.
- alangibson 3y ago
  How will frustrating users make it better? Of course things need to be paid for, but throwing up a giant stop sign is maybe the worst possible user experience. The web needs a native value transfer mechanism, but so far all efforts have failed.
  - kuchenbecker 3y ago
    Free web incentivises people to compete for viewers, whereas a paid web you need a reasonable expectation the content is quality. I didn't read beyond the paywall, and that's okay. I subscribe to other things and if I see enough enticing high quality content from someone I might pay. It's the folks like me, using an adblocker, that have been getting the good deal in a time with fewer paywalls.
Agrue8u 3y ago
The Atlantic does release full articles under RSS which I greatly appreciate. (instead of 1st paragraph as most paywalled news)

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1970-01-01 3y ago

Also, they rap on the Internet when they really mean World Wide Web. The Internet is fantastic. The Web has never been worse.

bigstrat2003 3y ago
For all but the most dedicated pedants, those terms are synonymous.
- alangibson 3y ago
  For most normies "internet" is synonymous with their favorite social media site and maybe Google. I've been talking to quite a few Zoomers lately about the Internet. Not a single one of them knew what the WWW was. They though it was basically something Google made. The important social media apps (Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, and to a lesser degree Twitter) are barely part of the Web. They mostly treat the WWW as a minor traffic acquisition platform.
  - ericfrazier 3y ago
    Reddit is in that list and I have to imagine a lot of their traffic is still WWW
- smrtinsert 3y ago
  standingovation.gif
- yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
  If you'll forgive my quoting xkcd, > but as I see it "pedantic" is just a euphemism for "correct in a way I don't like". And this is HN; if you want to use words incorrectly and not get called on it, this is a bad place to post.

tlogan 3y ago

I think more paywalls is actually going to make internet better.

botanical 3y ago
From what I've noticed, paywalled sites are echo chambers to whatever audience the site is catering to.
alangibson 3y ago
How will frustrating users make it better? Of course things need to be paid for, but throwing up a giant stop sign is maybe the worst possible user experience. The web needs a native value transfer mechanism, but so far all efforts have failed.
- kuchenbecker 3y ago
  Free web incentivises people to compete for viewers, whereas a paid web you need a reasonable expectation the content is quality. I didn't read beyond the paywall, and that's okay. I subscribe to other things and if I see enough enticing high quality content from someone I might pay. It's the folks like me, using an adblocker, that have been getting the good deal in a time with fewer paywalls.

Agrue8u 3y ago

The Atlantic does release full articles under RSS which I greatly appreciate. (instead of 1st paragraph as most paywalled news)