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No, it does not. Tesla's safety stats clearly show FSD systems prevent accidents, and in such a large volume, that making such a statement is fundamentally a co

by 1970-01-01 3y ago

No, it does not. Tesla's safety stats clearly show FSD systems prevent accidents, and in such a large volume, that making such a statement is fundamentally a counterargument for safety. Interpret the data, then comment. Not the other way around. https://www.tesla.com/VehicleSafetyReport https://www.tesla.com/VehicleSafetyReport

katbyte 3y ago
I’m sorry if I don’t believe anything from the company that has been proven to lie, deceive, deflect and make things up. Independent source?
- 1970-01-01 3y ago
  https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-fsd-safety-statistics/ https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-fsd-safety-statistics/
  - usea 3y ago
    That's just blogspam about how amazing and wonderful the other report you linked is. It's somehow even less credible than tesla.
    - 1970-01-01 3y ago
      Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith. Read the article before posting. It has links and contains scores for IIHS Crash avoidance & mitigation and Euro NCAP Safety Assist. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
      - katbyte 3y ago
        How about instead of nitpicking someone’s comment you actually try to reply to their valid criticisms of your link? It doesn’t actually collaborate teslas claims (it is also as they said even more slimy and blog spammy) and the bit you are talking about are just links to it’s own articles which again don’t really have real metrics or stats on how their autonomous systems fare
        1970-01-01 3y ago
        Because my info is simply discarded as fake, and you haven't done any homework on a counter-argument. I've spoon-fed facts that support my argument, you clicked the links, but have not read nor interpreted them. Nor have you made any conclusions based on them.
        katbyte 3y ago
        Not your info, Tesla’s - find a source that isn’t Tesla.
trefoiled 3y ago
Excuse me if I take Tesla's self reported statistics with a grain of salt. "...statisticians have pointed out serious analytical flaws, including the fact that the Tesla stats involve newer cars being driven on highways. The government’s general statistics include cars of all ages on highways, rural roads and neighborhood streets. In other words, the comparison is apples and oranges." https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2022-12-27/tesla-stopped-reporting-autopilot-safety-statistics-online https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2022-12-27/tesla-stop...

katbyte 3y ago

I’m sorry if I don’t believe anything from the company that has been proven to lie, deceive, deflect and make things up. Independent source?

1970-01-01 3y ago
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-fsd-safety-statistics/ https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-fsd-safety-statistics/
- usea 3y ago
  That's just blogspam about how amazing and wonderful the other report you linked is. It's somehow even less credible than tesla.
  - 1970-01-01 3y ago
    Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith. Read the article before posting. It has links and contains scores for IIHS Crash avoidance & mitigation and Euro NCAP Safety Assist. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - katbyte 3y ago
      How about instead of nitpicking someone’s comment you actually try to reply to their valid criticisms of your link? It doesn’t actually collaborate teslas claims (it is also as they said even more slimy and blog spammy) and the bit you are talking about are just links to it’s own articles which again don’t really have real metrics or stats on how their autonomous systems fare
      - 1970-01-01 3y ago
        Because my info is simply discarded as fake, and you haven't done any homework on a counter-argument. I've spoon-fed facts that support my argument, you clicked the links, but have not read nor interpreted them. Nor have you made any conclusions based on them.
        katbyte 3y ago
        Not your info, Tesla’s - find a source that isn’t Tesla.

trefoiled 3y ago

Excuse me if I take Tesla's self reported statistics with a grain of salt. "...statisticians have pointed out serious analytical flaws, including the fact that the Tesla stats involve newer cars being driven on highways. The government’s general statistics include cars of all ages on highways, rural roads and neighborhood streets. In other words, the comparison is apples and oranges." https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2022-12-27/tesla-stopped-reporting-autopilot-safety-statistics-online https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2022-12-27/tesla-stop...