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Just give your kids regular water, don't subject them to your mental illness.
by willcipriano 3y ago
Just give your kids regular water, don't subject them to your mental illness.
- perihelions 3y agoThis was stocked on Whole Foods shelves. I imagine many people who bought likely thought this was some kind of "regular" water. - "A study published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in November 2021 laid out 25 cases of acute liver failure linked to the water—22 in Nevada and three in California, all of which occurred at the end of 2020. Specifically, the cases were linked to Real Water's 5-gallon Re2al Water product, sold in multiple southwestern states in places like Whole Foods."
- willcipriano 3y agoWhole Foods customers are probably buying that water because its "more healthy" than water from Walmart if we are honest.
- ta988 3y agoThat's what they believe. Same for a lot of things sold there. That's what happens in everything that has no controls. Food items, dietary supplements all of those have close to 0 controls, nobody checks what's in them. And it is the same (or worse) in all the kratom and synthetic thc products found everywhere in grocery stores and gas stations around the country. The agencies supposed to check for that are not doing anything for various reasons (they get dismantled, rendered inefficient through bureaucracy or plainy incompetent). This should tell you how much politics (both sides) really value the human lifes they make you believe they defend.
- plagiarist 3y agoSorry, I'm familiar with the actions taken by one side to defund and obstruct regulatory bodies, what is the other side doing that warrants a "both sides?" Being incompetent due to obstruction and a lack of funds?
- willcipriano 3y agoPretending to care about things like that but instead spending all your money on wars.
- mcpackieh 3y agoNear as I can tell they were selling this stuff for $2 a liter, which probably should have tipped people off but some people just have no sense for these things ("It's one banana Michael, how much could it cost? $10?") I would be doubly skeptical of anything like this coming from Whole Foods, the grocery store that has an entire aisle dedicated to fraudulent quackery "medicine" aka homeopathic nonsense. It's not illegal, but it should be, and they shouldn't be selling it even though it's legal, but they proudly do. Fuck whole foods.
- plagiarist 3y agoI've seen homeopathic nonsense in chain drug stores. Is it a symptom of how unaffordable US healthcare is, or are people in other countries also profiting from selling quackery?
- gedy 3y ago> Is it a symptom of how unaffordable US healthcare is In my circles, it's actually the well-off people who buy into the quack fads.
- denton-scratch 3y agoMy local pharmacy (not any kind of chain) sells homeopathic crap. It's a nice pharmacy; it's not actually that local, I have to take a bus to get there. It's tiny - basically a corner shop. UK pharmacies get a fee from the NHS for each prescription they dispense. But I imagine that's not enough to keep them running; they need the profits they make from manuka honey shampoo, argan-oil skin products, dubious supplements and so on.
- mindslight 3y agoI'm sure the same snake oil dynamic exists everywhere, but the popularity sure seems like a feature of rampant individualism as enabled by wealth. Don't follow professional "medical advice" - that's boring, we all know it's bound to fail, and that's if you can even get an appointment with an engaged professional. Instead "do your own research" and find that one simple trick that "they" have been keeping from you. The lure of someone believing that they've discovered their own smarter approach is a hell of a drug.
- dwaltrip 3y agoI'm very surprised water products like this weren't required to undergo rigorous testing for toxic chemicals.
- nytesky 3y agoI am surprised there is zero audit trail for a good purchased at Whole Foods to be honest. City water in Flint was poisonous, buying drinking water from a respectable retailer should not be risky. If you sent a a sample to a water testing company, would they have detected the hydrazine, it’s not like it’s a common contaminant and I’m sure it’s is very small quantities which while still harmful are why it wasn’t obvious??
- rsync 3y agoA common drinking water test (which will run $100 or so) will not run tests for hydrazine but there is a more exhaustive test ($600 or so) which will. We use etrlabs.com for these tests. Edit: hrmmm… troubling to see Hanna meters called out as defective or malfunctioning - presumably their ph meters - as we use those for everything…
- perihelions 3y agoAre you certain you've understood their product offering? That vendor doesn't mention hydrazine in the long list of things they say they check for, on their website.
- vGPU 3y agoIndeed, that one doesn’t appear to. There are plenty of standalone kits that do as it’s used to prevent boiler corrosion, however. Here’s an example: https://www.chemetrics.com/product-category/test-kits/hydrazine/ https://www.chemetrics.com/product-category/test-kits/hydraz... I don’t know if there are any “all in one” tests that include it but I’m not involved in the field in any way aside from using a reverse osmosis filter on my tap.
- fatfingerd 3y agoThe article states these other companies played a role in faulty pH measurement, leading to less dilution with actual real water.
- rsync 3y ago
- fortran77 3y agoExactly. Parents of kids who got ill or died should be criminally charged. For some reason, the U.S. doesn't do this under some strange "Haven't they suffered enough?" legal theory. If, say, a teacher gave the kids the water, there would have been charges.
- NotYourLawyer 3y agoWhat’s the theory for parental liability here? If you buy something at Whole Foods you should be able to assume it won’t kill you.
- denton-scratch 3y agoWhy? Is Whole Foods more blessed than other retail outlets?
- dwaltrip 3y agoI don't know about you, but I usually don't have time to do rigorous testing on every food item I buy from the grocery store. Life is busy these days. /s --- It'd be nice to live in a society where common, basic food and drink products designed to be consumed by humans and sold in your local grocery store have some sort of safety guarantee. E.g. Someone checked for toxic chemicals
- PhasmaFelis 3y agoIf you buy drinking water at any retail outlet you should be able to assume it won't kill you. Obviously.
- denton-scratch 3y agoExactly. My point is: some people seem to elevate Whole Foods to some pedestal, as if the products they sell are somehow healthier than those of other retailers. In fact they sell products made by third-party manufacturers, just like any supermarket. I've never been into a Whole Foods; I imagine they have some stuff that I couldn't get in other shops, and I imagine that everything is marked-up, whether it's exclusive or not, and whether it's fresh or canned. Is that about right?
- klyrs 3y ago> don't subject them to your mental illness. This isn't possible.
- fzeroracer 3y agoIf only. If you've been on HN long enough, you'll see people peddling miracle cures and homeopathic bullshit. America has long had a fraught history with falling prey to snake oil salesman, which forms the basis for a lot of our regulatory system around food. But even then it's not strict enough in some sense, considering products tainted with hydrazine were able to make it to shelves.
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- iAMkenough 3y agoThe regular water at our home gives them the shits.