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Curious to know more. I have developed a few web apps using it. I actually like the pages + Components separation paradigm and asp.net is pretty fast. Could yo

Curious to know more. I have developed a few web apps using it. I actually like the pages + Components separation paradigm and asp.net is pretty fast. Could you explain your perspective on Blazor?

DaiPlusPlus 3y ago
Blazor is based on a build of .NET (CLR + BCL) for WASM - though it is highly optimized and unused code is aggressively removed from the WASM bundles it still means your users will need to download (at least) 6MB of WASM while your SPA loads - which makes Angular look anorexic in comparison. ...which basically restricts Blazor's use to corporate LAN environments, kiosk applications, and (maybe) PWAs - but it's otherwise completely unsuitable for use on the wider public Internet. ...but we know it'll end-up being used on the public web eventually anyway because developer time is worth more than the end user UX.
- mgh95 3y ago
  This is just the adage software is a gas. linkedin.com now takes 5.1mb; users are simply becoming accustomed to larger web based applications.
- blackoil 3y ago
  Which may look huge but not big problem for enterprise web apps. First load may be slow but it is then cached.
- xky 3y ago
  The .Net team has made pretty significant strides in minimizing the bundle size and I would expect that to continue. It’s now also possible to combine pre-rendering and streaming with web assembly to improve the loading experience.
- 4rt 3y ago
  You're talking specifically about Blazor client-side framework which is designed for e.g. games or drawing apps where 6mb of downloads isn't particularly onerous. The far more common use-case is Blazor server-side which doesn't have this huge download overhead and works like server-side rendering in e.g. React, the download is approximately 150kb.
- kgeist 3y ago
  >it still means your users will need to download (at least) 6MB of WASM Isn't it like 1 second of scrolling through Instagram?
- jmkni 3y ago
  Angular has really improved in this area, the addition of standalone components mean your initial payload can be very small indeed, and then just lazy load the rest as/if you need it.

Curious to know more. I have developed a few web apps using it. I actually like the pages + Components separation paradigm and asp.net is pretty fast. Could you explain your perspective on Blazor?

DaiPlusPlus 3y ago

Blazor is based on a build of .NET (CLR + BCL) for WASM - though it is highly optimized and unused code is aggressively removed from the WASM bundles it still means your users will need to download (at least) 6MB of WASM while your SPA loads - which makes Angular look anorexic in comparison. ...which basically restricts Blazor's use to corporate LAN environments, kiosk applications, and (maybe) PWAs - but it's otherwise completely unsuitable for use on the wider public Internet. ...but we know it'll end-up being used on the public web eventually anyway because developer time is worth more than the end user UX.

mgh95 3y ago
This is just the adage software is a gas. linkedin.com now takes 5.1mb; users are simply becoming accustomed to larger web based applications.
blackoil 3y ago
Which may look huge but not big problem for enterprise web apps. First load may be slow but it is then cached.
xky 3y ago
The .Net team has made pretty significant strides in minimizing the bundle size and I would expect that to continue. It’s now also possible to combine pre-rendering and streaming with web assembly to improve the loading experience.
4rt 3y ago
You're talking specifically about Blazor client-side framework which is designed for e.g. games or drawing apps where 6mb of downloads isn't particularly onerous. The far more common use-case is Blazor server-side which doesn't have this huge download overhead and works like server-side rendering in e.g. React, the download is approximately 150kb.
kgeist 3y ago
>it still means your users will need to download (at least) 6MB of WASM Isn't it like 1 second of scrolling through Instagram?
jmkni 3y ago
Angular has really improved in this area, the addition of standalone components mean your initial payload can be very small indeed, and then just lazy load the rest as/if you need it.