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Incidentally, along with other strengthened paywalls, this might impact HN's own acceptance of YT videos, which may not be generally available to many HN reader

Incidentally, along with other strengthened paywalls, this might impact HN's own acceptance of YT videos, which may not be generally available to many HN readers. In 2023, youtube.com was the single most frequently appearing site on HN front-page stories (based on HN's front-page archive), with 105 stories (of 10,950), about 1% of the total. (Based on my HN front-page analysis.) Edit: Corrected above from 10% as initially written. As previously noted, the New York Times saw front-page appearances fall to 25% of its prior level after that site's paywall strengthened in August 2019. I'm anticipating a large number of comments addressing YT's anti-ad-blocking rather than the contents of the video itself.

skilled 3y ago
Uhh, 100 stories would be 1%, a big distinction. I am sure if worst comes to worst, a solution will be found. I haven’t heard anything about YouTube planning to block embeds for example.
- dredmorbius 3y ago
  Gah! You're right. I should have caught that as the largest category ovrall (all years) is general news sites at about 8.5% of all FP stories. So no single site should rank above that.[1] YT is still the single top site for 2022 front page stories though. Top 10: Site Stories Points ( mean ) Comments ( mean ) ------------------------------ ------- ------ ---------- -------- ---------- n/a 432 167275 ( 386.32 ) 125304 ( 289.39 ) youtube.com 105 27243 ( 257.01 ) 12489 ( 117.82 ) nature.com 80 17694 ( 218.44 ) 11716 ( 144.64 ) wikipedia.org 68 12258 ( 177.65 ) 5855 ( 84.86 ) nytimes.com 67 21190 ( 311.62 ) 21765 ( 320.07 ) arstechnica.com 63 18319 ( 286.23 ) 12057 ( 188.39 ) ieee.org 53 9432 ( 174.67 ) 5933 ( 109.87 ) reuters.com 53 28360 ( 525.19 ) 29033 ( 537.65 ) theguardian.com 49 12228 ( 244.56 ) 8677 ( 173.54 ) quantamagazine.org 48 11293 ( 230.47 ) 5519 ( 112.63 ) science.org 47 12485 ( 260.10 ) 7655 ( 159.48 ) "n/a" are posts without links, typically Ask/Tell HN, Who's Hiring/Wants to be Hired threads, etc. ________________________________ Notes: 1. "General news" has actually fallen in recent years, with programming/code submissions (frequently Github/Gitlab repos, plus language-specific sites, etc.) at 10.5% of all front-page submissions in 2023, blogs at 10.25%, academic/science (5.2%), and general news (4%).

skilled 3y ago

Uhh, 100 stories would be 1%, a big distinction. I am sure if worst comes to worst, a solution will be found. I haven’t heard anything about YouTube planning to block embeds for example.

dredmorbius 3y ago
Gah! You're right. I should have caught that as the largest category ovrall (all years) is general news sites at about 8.5% of all FP stories. So no single site should rank above that.[1] YT is still the single top site for 2022 front page stories though. Top 10: Site Stories Points ( mean ) Comments ( mean ) ------------------------------ ------- ------ ---------- -------- ---------- n/a 432 167275 ( 386.32 ) 125304 ( 289.39 ) youtube.com 105 27243 ( 257.01 ) 12489 ( 117.82 ) nature.com 80 17694 ( 218.44 ) 11716 ( 144.64 ) wikipedia.org 68 12258 ( 177.65 ) 5855 ( 84.86 ) nytimes.com 67 21190 ( 311.62 ) 21765 ( 320.07 ) arstechnica.com 63 18319 ( 286.23 ) 12057 ( 188.39 ) ieee.org 53 9432 ( 174.67 ) 5933 ( 109.87 ) reuters.com 53 28360 ( 525.19 ) 29033 ( 537.65 ) theguardian.com 49 12228 ( 244.56 ) 8677 ( 173.54 ) quantamagazine.org 48 11293 ( 230.47 ) 5519 ( 112.63 ) science.org 47 12485 ( 260.10 ) 7655 ( 159.48 ) "n/a" are posts without links, typically Ask/Tell HN, Who's Hiring/Wants to be Hired threads, etc. ________________________________ Notes: 1. "General news" has actually fallen in recent years, with programming/code submissions (frequently Github/Gitlab repos, plus language-specific sites, etc.) at 10.5% of all front-page submissions in 2023, blogs at 10.25%, academic/science (5.2%), and general news (4%).