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I feel like doxing peoples’ location is not acceptable free speech online, just in general

hef19898 3y ago
There are still people who think elonsjet was doxxing? Interesting...
welon 3y ago
Such info is published by law; public has a right to track potential debris that may rain down on it given malfeasance or technical failures Elon is free to not own private jets What’s with coddling a minority that does not care we exist?
- FireBeyond 3y ago
  And all his mealy mouthed claims about anonymity are laughable. The jet's registered owner is a company with a very Space-y name, whose address is "1 Space Drive" an address which if you put into Google will say "Businesses associated with this address: Tesla, SpaceX, The Boring Company". Security through obscurity, it ain't.
sixothree 3y ago
He wasn’t using anything not available to the public. I wouldn’t consider this doxxing by any stretch.
lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
> His program uses public data sources including the Federal Aviation Administration, OpenSky Network, and Automatic Dependent Surveillance–Broadcast. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Sweeney#Creation_of_flight_monitoring_tools https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Sweeney#Creation_of_fligh...
- artursapek 3y ago
  so if I go dig up your house in public real estate records and put it on blast to thousands of people, you won’t mind?
  - ceejayoz 3y ago
    You mean like https://mcmansionhell.com/ https://mcmansionhell.com/ ?
    - artursapek 3y ago
      no, I mean tying your identity with your location and giving it potential to go viral. this is what "Elon Jet" was doing. it was taking technically public info and making it extremely easy to consume and re-share. as entertainment. for someone who is very much in the public eye. you probably aren't famous so maybe you don't understand, but that sounds potentially harmful for someone who is.
      - lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
        > you probably aren't famous so maybe you don't understand, but that sounds potentially harmful for someone who is. I’m not so convinced. What harm does this account cause? The most harmful thing that comes to mind is that someone could use the information to plan a murder. The account doesn’t provide this information; it is actually relevant that the information is otherwise available. A person so dedicated to hating this person that they decide to show up with violent intent at a public airport where his jet just landed or is about to take off is pretty damn likely to also be dedicated enough to find this information from other public sources. The account only makes it easier -- it doesn’t enable given that they’re already able -- for someone else to be actually harmful. This talk of some billionaire gets to fly around in his private jet and the worst thing about it is that everyone else in the world gets to know when and where the jet arrives and departs... it’s just not something I have any sympathy for.
      - ceejayoz 3y ago
        You edited your comment dramatically from what I responded to.

hef19898 3y ago

There are still people who think elonsjet was doxxing? Interesting...

Such info is published by law; public has a right to track potential debris that may rain down on it given malfeasance or technical failures Elon is free to not own private jets What’s with coddling a minority that does not care we exist?

FireBeyond 3y ago
And all his mealy mouthed claims about anonymity are laughable. The jet's registered owner is a company with a very Space-y name, whose address is "1 Space Drive" an address which if you put into Google will say "Businesses associated with this address: Tesla, SpaceX, The Boring Company". Security through obscurity, it ain't.

sixothree 3y ago

He wasn’t using anything not available to the public. I wouldn’t consider this doxxing by any stretch.

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago

> His program uses public data sources including the Federal Aviation Administration, OpenSky Network, and Automatic Dependent Surveillance–Broadcast. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Sweeney#Creation_of_flight_monitoring_tools https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Sweeney#Creation_of_fligh...

artursapek 3y ago
so if I go dig up your house in public real estate records and put it on blast to thousands of people, you won’t mind?
- ceejayoz 3y ago
  You mean like https://mcmansionhell.com/ https://mcmansionhell.com/ ?
  - artursapek 3y ago
    no, I mean tying your identity with your location and giving it potential to go viral. this is what "Elon Jet" was doing. it was taking technically public info and making it extremely easy to consume and re-share. as entertainment. for someone who is very much in the public eye. you probably aren't famous so maybe you don't understand, but that sounds potentially harmful for someone who is.
    - lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
      > you probably aren't famous so maybe you don't understand, but that sounds potentially harmful for someone who is. I’m not so convinced. What harm does this account cause? The most harmful thing that comes to mind is that someone could use the information to plan a murder. The account doesn’t provide this information; it is actually relevant that the information is otherwise available. A person so dedicated to hating this person that they decide to show up with violent intent at a public airport where his jet just landed or is about to take off is pretty damn likely to also be dedicated enough to find this information from other public sources. The account only makes it easier -- it doesn’t enable given that they’re already able -- for someone else to be actually harmful. This talk of some billionaire gets to fly around in his private jet and the worst thing about it is that everyone else in the world gets to know when and where the jet arrives and departs... it’s just not something I have any sympathy for.
    - ceejayoz 3y ago
      You edited your comment dramatically from what I responded to.