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If you are over, say, 25, then you know that the last 10 years have been _exceptional_ years for our climate, and that the time for normal non-sensational warni
by postmodest 3y ago
If you are over, say, 25, then you know that the last 10 years have been _exceptional_ years for our climate, and that the time for normal non-sensational warnings was 40 years ago or 50 years ago.
Look at a graph of CO2 emissions and you realize that we are in a place where what was alarming in the 80's was the result of only _half_ of the CO2 pumped into the atmosphere since 1900 ( https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions )
And now we are using energy to cover for the effects of using energy a decade ago.
Things are worse and they will reach the point over the next five or ten years that heat events and cold events will become more deadly for more people and the fact that you're tired of hearing about it isn't the problem.
The problem is that people haven't been taking the danger seriously and now it's an immanent and deadly danger.
- HPsquared 3y agoIt's slowing down at least.
- ToDougie 3y agoThe climate over the last 10 years haven't felt or been exceptional. The news has certainly been sensational.
- sofixa 3y agoAre you kidding? How many temperature records were broken? How many "once in a 100 years events" happened? Texas had two such winter storms in less than 10 years. There have been record droughts in France, and then record rainfalls. An unprecedented heat dome in the Pacific Northwest. Vast areas in the Middle East and South Asia, and hell the US too, are approaching unliveable wet bulbs temperatures in the summer. If that isn't exceptional to you, what would be?
- phero_cnstrcts 3y agoHappens all the time. Media wants you to believe otherwise so the rich can get richer and have more control.
- sofixa 3y agoWhich exactly part happens all the time? Each year setting temperature records? "Once in a lifetime" climate disasters? Wildfires getting worse and worse? On the wet bulb temperature front, it's literally unprecedented and quite impactful. Millions of people would be unable to survive where they currently live and would need to move.
- netsharc 3y agoIsn't amazing how actual people can put their heads in sand and say "Oh it's just media conspiracy and lies to fuck over us poor people!" about anything they don't like. Added irony that the person is a commenter on HN, who is probably the top 10% of the richest people in the world.
- ben_w 3y agoMonday this week, it was 24°C here, a full 9°C above the seasonal average for Berlin for the beginning of October. I'm aware this is anecdata, but I'm not used to needing to wear shorts in September, let alone October.
- wrycoder 3y agoMeanwhile, the global troposphere is averaging 0.56C higher than it was four decades ago.
- hutzlibu 3y ago"The problem is that people haven't been taking the danger seriously and now it's an immanent and deadly danger." Taking something serious, is something very different from a doomsday cult.
- bawolff 3y ago> If you are over, say, 25, then you know that the last 10 years have been _exceptional_ years for our climate And if you know anything about statistics, its that ancedotes are not the plural of data and that humans have a severe recency bias. The facts about climate change are damning enough, i don't know why people feel the need to resort to poor logic and fallacies when describing climate change. The truth is actually on your side. Lets present that instead.
- ben_w 3y ago> The facts about climate change are damning enough, i don't know why people feel the need to resort to poor logic and fallacies when describing climate change. The truth is actually on your side. Lets present that instead. In fairness, that demonstrably hasn't worked on the politicians for the last hundred years.
- petemir 3y ago> And if you know anything about statistics, its that ancedotes are not the plural of data and that humans have a severe recency bias. > The facts about climate change are damning enough, i don't know why people feel the need to resort to poor logic and fallacies when describing climate change. The truth is actually on your side. Lets present that instead I don’t think that the majority of people deals well when confronted with statistics.
- postmodest 3y agoThe long term annd anccelerating increase in extremes while averages rise is exactly the _data_ I am describing.