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This is good news for Chicago workers. The headline seems incorrect, though. In Los Angeles, the minimum wage is $16.04 across the board, because California do

This is good news for Chicago workers. The headline seems incorrect, though. In Los Angeles, the minimum wage is $16.04 across the board, because California doesn't allow employers to deduct tips from base wages (aka "tip credit", the loophole that allows subminimum wage for tipped workers in most places). Also, New York is larger than Chicago, and the minimum wage for tipped service employees is $12.50 ($10 for tipped food service workers) in the hospitality industry, and $15 for any tipped service workers not employed in hospitality. That's technically "subminimum" because it's less than the minimum wage in New York City, but in most places the tipped minimum wage is closer to $2 (ie, basically all earnings are due to tips), which is a very different situation from being guaranteed $10-$12.50/hour.

HWR_14 3y ago
Chicago is the first city. California as a whole (and several other states) have already eliminated sub-minimum wage statewide. Edit: Not first city. Biggest city to do so independently.
- dmoy 3y ago
  That's a really weird way to write the title then. "Chicago does X before NYC, ignoring LA which didn't have to because of a state law that already did X" ?
  - HWR_14 3y ago
    The fourth paragraph in the article explains LA already does it and lists every state. The first paragraph and the original title users the word "independently" to emphasize it was Chicago's choice and not a statewide mandate like LA. Really, this should be fixed as a misleading change-of-title when posting to HN. Who can summon dang?
    - toomuchtodo 3y ago
      Title limit, I could not fit independently in. Propose a better title and I'll edit. EDIT: "Chicago independently abolishes subminimum wage for tipped workers." May dang have mercy on my choices.
      - dmoy 3y ago
        "Chicago abolishes subminimum wage for tipped workers" maybe?
      - HWR_14 3y ago
        I think it's a good edit. I don't know if it's a better title in general, but it avoids this major distraction.
- mistrial9 3y ago
  ceasar chavez would like a word with you...
nemo44x 3y ago
California is the worst state for tipping as of today. [1] Once it’s fully phased in I’ll change my tipping percentage to 10% from the typical 20%. I expect most people will rationalize this since menu prices will rise. [1] https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/poverty/3891977-these-are-the-cities-with-the-best-worst-tippers/amp/ https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/poverty/3891977...

HWR_14 3y ago

Chicago is the first city. California as a whole (and several other states) have already eliminated sub-minimum wage statewide. Edit: Not first city. Biggest city to do so independently.

dmoy 3y ago
That's a really weird way to write the title then. "Chicago does X before NYC, ignoring LA which didn't have to because of a state law that already did X" ?
- HWR_14 3y ago
  The fourth paragraph in the article explains LA already does it and lists every state. The first paragraph and the original title users the word "independently" to emphasize it was Chicago's choice and not a statewide mandate like LA. Really, this should be fixed as a misleading change-of-title when posting to HN. Who can summon dang?
  - toomuchtodo 3y ago
    Title limit, I could not fit independently in. Propose a better title and I'll edit. EDIT: "Chicago independently abolishes subminimum wage for tipped workers." May dang have mercy on my choices.
    - dmoy 3y ago
      "Chicago abolishes subminimum wage for tipped workers" maybe?
    - HWR_14 3y ago
      I think it's a good edit. I don't know if it's a better title in general, but it avoids this major distraction.
mistrial9 3y ago
ceasar chavez would like a word with you...

nemo44x 3y ago

California is the worst state for tipping as of today. [1] Once it’s fully phased in I’ll change my tipping percentage to 10% from the typical 20%. I expect most people will rationalize this since menu prices will rise. [1] https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/poverty/3891977-these-are-the-cities-with-the-best-worst-tippers/amp/ https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/poverty/3891977...