> Whenever a new framework is introduced this usually requires broad consent, clear scope, and agreement on committing to this new direction, doubly so when it'

> Whenever a new framework is introduced this usually requires broad consent, clear scope, and agreement on committing to this new direction, doubly so when it's introducing a new language. Do you embark on working on these projects without discussing what you'll be doing? Like I mentioned above. If I want quality, then I alone make this decision. If anyone wants to join, they join on my terms. I will make my terms uncompromising and uncomfortable for people who want consensus deliberately because I don't want to work with people who want consensus -- they suck at programming. For my day job, I work with people who want consensus, an easy way to slack, pretend to work, hit the lowest bar available to pick the paycheck and go home, watch TV, play guitar, whatever. They don't produce anything that resembles quality work. Never will. That's not their goal, nor do they feel bad for not accomplishing that. > Who's going to maintain that? Why wasn't this discussed? Whoever knows how to program will. It wasn't discussed because I wouldn't care about an opinion coming from someone who doesn't know how to program. Same way how I don't ask the neighbor's cat when I make programming decisions. > Have you even considered code reviews? ... if no one else knows the language and _knows it well_? Yes. I considered. This is their problem, not mine. If you want to be a programmer, it's your job to know your tools well. If you want a fat paycheck and be a useless blight on the bloat of the corporate world... well, make up the rules that are even more convenient to you... > in love with tech This has nothing to do with being "in love with tech". This is about the quality of output of people who are employed as programmers but aren't. One can be "in love" and suck, while other can "hate" and be very good at what they do. The reason why the situation the way it is that that human nature which pushes everyone towards a place where they can be lazy and ignorant meets no resistance. While in many other professions there's a market for high-quality products, like very expensive and very high-quality watches, cars, photo equipment, clothes, food... in programming there's no market for anything that's trying for quality rather than time to market, price or reach. There's no niche, when it comes to programming market that would pay tenfold or hundred times more for a higher-quality product. That's why in industrial setting nobody is trying to make high-quality products, even though some, naively, come with this idea into the trade, they are quickly shown the reality where nobody cares.