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Personally, I believe Len Sassaman is the likely candidate for Satoshi. I know the "evidence" is largely circumstantial and coincidental timing... but when you

Personally, I believe Len Sassaman is the likely candidate for Satoshi. I know the "evidence" is largely circumstantial and coincidental timing... but when you take it all in it's a bit much.

anonporridge 3y ago
Ref, https://evanhatch.medium.com/len-sassaman-and-satoshi-e483c85c2b10 https://evanhatch.medium.com/len-sassaman-and-satoshi-e483c8...
jobead 3y ago
Nope, if it's one person, it's gotta be Szabo. Only person in the world who wouldn't cite his work would be himself. (If it's more than one person, of course it could include Len.)
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- bmulcahy 3y ago
  I vote Hal Finney.
  - mortallywounded 3y ago
    I don't believe Hal was Satoshi (there's no evidence to suggest it), but Bitcoin never would have succeeded without Hal. He deserves as much credit as Satoshi.
Stevvo 3y ago
I find it stunning when people claim Satoshi to be anyone other than Nick Szabo. Any reasonable person sould come to the conclusion that it is him. There is plenty of direct evedence that points to him.
- mortallywounded 3y ago
  There's very little circumstantial evidence pointing to Szabo (there is some). I understand why you believe it to be Szabo. He has the skill set and history in that problem domain... but there's far more circumstantial evidence pointing to someone like Len.
  - sho_hn 3y ago
    Is there a "SatoshiWiki" that enumerates these?
    - mortallywounded 3y ago
      None that I am aware of... I have spent more hours than I'd like to admit looking into different candidates and putting my own OSINT skills to the test. Perhaps I should create a wiki!
  - Stevvo 3y ago
    Here is Szabo last post about Bitgold before he renamed it to Bitcoin; http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2008/04/bit-gold-markets.html?m=1#3741843833998921269 http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2008/04/bit-gold-markets.ht... It describes the architecture of Bitcoin exactly. It is conclusive evidence that Szabo invented Bitcoin.
    - gregschlom 3y ago
      > Here is Szabo last post about Bitgold before he renamed it to Bitcoin; Come to think about it, this Bit gold -> Bitcoin renaming theory would also explain why miners are called miners in Bitcoin. "Minters" (with a t) would be a much more logical name if you started with the coin analogy from the beginning.
      - Stevvo 3y ago
        They went with the miner analogy because of proof-of-work; the miner does the work.
Medox 3y ago
Then again, he did not like Bitcoin that much: > I haven't analyzed BitCoin, but the impression of multiple digital cash experts I've talked to is that it's bunk. [1] > I'd be more optimistic about BitCoin if I had the impression that they were acting on lessons learned from prior attempts. [2] > Wow; there exists a Tor+bitcoin illegal drug marketplace, appropriately called Silk Road. [3] > Ugh, another stupid article claiming "anonymity is inherent in Bitcoin." [4] > This big Bitcoin heist shows Bitcoin suffers from the worst of both worlds: no strong anonymity, yet no fraud reversal protection. [5] [1] https://nitter.net/lensassaman/status/12213554224562176 https://nitter.net/lensassaman/status/12213554224562176 [2] https://nitter.net/lensassaman/status/56487900136734720 https://nitter.net/lensassaman/status/56487900136734720 [3] https://nitter.net/lensassaman/status/69301492342980608 https://nitter.net/lensassaman/status/69301492342980608 [4] https://nitter.net/lensassaman/status/81431725510635521 https://nitter.net/lensassaman/status/81431725510635521 [5] https://nitter.net/lensassaman/status/81084436518674433 https://nitter.net/lensassaman/status/81084436518674433
- mortallywounded 3y ago
  I've thought about it, but he could have felt that way about the illegal side of it and things going on... plus there's nothing anonymous about Bitcoin so the idea of it being inherent in Bitcoin IS stupid. Plus, what would you expect him to do? Praise it and point everyone towards it? :p

Personally, I believe Len Sassaman is the likely candidate for Satoshi. I know the "evidence" is largely circumstantial and coincidental timing... but when you take it all in it's a bit much.

anonporridge 3y ago

Ref, https://evanhatch.medium.com/len-sassaman-and-satoshi-e483c85c2b10 https://evanhatch.medium.com/len-sassaman-and-satoshi-e483c8...

jobead 3y ago

Nope, if it's one person, it's gotta be Szabo. Only person in the world who wouldn't cite his work would be himself. (If it's more than one person, of course it could include Len.)

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bmulcahy 3y ago
I vote Hal Finney.
- mortallywounded 3y ago
  I don't believe Hal was Satoshi (there's no evidence to suggest it), but Bitcoin never would have succeeded without Hal. He deserves as much credit as Satoshi.

Stevvo 3y ago

I find it stunning when people claim Satoshi to be anyone other than Nick Szabo. Any reasonable person sould come to the conclusion that it is him. There is plenty of direct evedence that points to him.

mortallywounded 3y ago
There's very little circumstantial evidence pointing to Szabo (there is some). I understand why you believe it to be Szabo. He has the skill set and history in that problem domain... but there's far more circumstantial evidence pointing to someone like Len.
- sho_hn 3y ago
  Is there a "SatoshiWiki" that enumerates these?
  - mortallywounded 3y ago
    None that I am aware of... I have spent more hours than I'd like to admit looking into different candidates and putting my own OSINT skills to the test. Perhaps I should create a wiki!
- Stevvo 3y ago
  Here is Szabo last post about Bitgold before he renamed it to Bitcoin; http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2008/04/bit-gold-markets.html?m=1#3741843833998921269 http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2008/04/bit-gold-markets.ht... It describes the architecture of Bitcoin exactly. It is conclusive evidence that Szabo invented Bitcoin.
  - gregschlom 3y ago
    > Here is Szabo last post about Bitgold before he renamed it to Bitcoin; Come to think about it, this Bit gold -> Bitcoin renaming theory would also explain why miners are called miners in Bitcoin. "Minters" (with a t) would be a much more logical name if you started with the coin analogy from the beginning.
    - Stevvo 3y ago
      They went with the miner analogy because of proof-of-work; the miner does the work.

Medox 3y ago

Then again, he did not like Bitcoin that much: > I haven't analyzed BitCoin, but the impression of multiple digital cash experts I've talked to is that it's bunk. [1] > I'd be more optimistic about BitCoin if I had the impression that they were acting on lessons learned from prior attempts. [2] > Wow; there exists a Tor+bitcoin illegal drug marketplace, appropriately called Silk Road. [3] > Ugh, another stupid article claiming "anonymity is inherent in Bitcoin." [4] > This big Bitcoin heist shows Bitcoin suffers from the worst of both worlds: no strong anonymity, yet no fraud reversal protection. [5] [1] https://nitter.net/lensassaman/status/12213554224562176 https://nitter.net/lensassaman/status/12213554224562176 [2] https://nitter.net/lensassaman/status/56487900136734720 https://nitter.net/lensassaman/status/56487900136734720 [3] https://nitter.net/lensassaman/status/69301492342980608 https://nitter.net/lensassaman/status/69301492342980608 [4] https://nitter.net/lensassaman/status/81431725510635521 https://nitter.net/lensassaman/status/81431725510635521 [5] https://nitter.net/lensassaman/status/81084436518674433 https://nitter.net/lensassaman/status/81084436518674433

mortallywounded 3y ago
I've thought about it, but he could have felt that way about the illegal side of it and things going on... plus there's nothing anonymous about Bitcoin so the idea of it being inherent in Bitcoin IS stupid. Plus, what would you expect him to do? Praise it and point everyone towards it? :p