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Wasn't windows 10 supposed to be the "last windows ever" ? Have been hearing about the subscription windows for 20+ years and it hasn't happened yet.

orphea 3y ago
> Wasn't windows 10 supposed to be the "last windows ever" Microsoft has never said that. Edit: since people are still confused. 1. What was said was "...and because Windows 10 is the last version of Windows, we’re all still working on Windows 10". This was said by a Microsoft developer evangelist, never it was an official corporate position or an announcement. And most certainly no one said "ever". 2. You could argue "the last version" meant "the most recent". 3. When Microsoft has been reached for a comment, they produced a usual corporate speech about how Windows 10 is going to be "reflective of the way Windows will be delivered as a service" (whatever this means) but they never confirmed there won't be the next version.
- callwhendone 3y ago
  https://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-version-of-windows https://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-ve...
  - vel0city 3y ago
    Your article largely agrees with the parent comment. A developer evangelist mentioned it once, Microsoft didn't immediately deny it, loads of people made assumptions of what that meant. Your article even mentions 11 and 12 were still a possibility. And to an extent the basic idea they did agree to has been true. 11 was a free upgrade for machines that were eligible to run it. I didn't need to go out and purchase a new Windows version.
- doctorwho42 3y ago
  I had both friends and family working in Microsoft when Windows 10 was released, and it definitely was sold as the last OS that would just get free updates forever. And that they would run it as a loss-leader.
  - cjbgkagh 3y ago
    It was a part of the billion devices plan. It was a lie to convince the Win7 holdouts to upgrade.
- kulahan 3y ago
  I believe it was heavily implied, but either way, it was clearly something they didn't handle well if tons and tons of people believe they said it when that wasn't their intention.
pdntspa 3y ago
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hef19898 3y ago
It was! That's why 11 and 12 don't exist!
shmatt 3y ago
I remember a Windows Blackcomb demo from 2003 that had features as subscriptions. So you got it exactly right with 20 Years
- cududa 3y ago
  I think you mean Longhorn?
rhplus 3y ago
The kernel team still call it Windows 10. From their perspective, the latest Windows 11 update is just Windows 10.0.22621.2361!
- zeusk 3y ago
  The kernel team doesn't use either version, they use release monikers internally (ie. Threshold, RS1-RS5, 19h1-22h2, Sun Valley 1, SV2 etc.) But also, internal interfaces and external interfaces are rev'd so teams tend to talk about the different interfaces they work with (ie. dxgi 1.2, dx12_3, wddm 3.2, UMDF 2.1) or the different internal versions of apisets.

orphea 3y ago

> Wasn't windows 10 supposed to be the "last windows ever" Microsoft has never said that. Edit: since people are still confused. 1. What was said was "...and because Windows 10 is the last version of Windows, we’re all still working on Windows 10". This was said by a Microsoft developer evangelist, never it was an official corporate position or an announcement. And most certainly no one said "ever". 2. You could argue "the last version" meant "the most recent". 3. When Microsoft has been reached for a comment, they produced a usual corporate speech about how Windows 10 is going to be "reflective of the way Windows will be delivered as a service" (whatever this means) but they never confirmed there won't be the next version.

callwhendone 3y ago
https://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-version-of-windows https://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-ve...
- vel0city 3y ago
  Your article largely agrees with the parent comment. A developer evangelist mentioned it once, Microsoft didn't immediately deny it, loads of people made assumptions of what that meant. Your article even mentions 11 and 12 were still a possibility. And to an extent the basic idea they did agree to has been true. 11 was a free upgrade for machines that were eligible to run it. I didn't need to go out and purchase a new Windows version.
doctorwho42 3y ago
I had both friends and family working in Microsoft when Windows 10 was released, and it definitely was sold as the last OS that would just get free updates forever. And that they would run it as a loss-leader.
- cjbgkagh 3y ago
  It was a part of the billion devices plan. It was a lie to convince the Win7 holdouts to upgrade.
kulahan 3y ago
I believe it was heavily implied, but either way, it was clearly something they didn't handle well if tons and tons of people believe they said it when that wasn't their intention.

pdntspa 3y ago

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hef19898 3y ago

It was! That's why 11 and 12 don't exist!

shmatt 3y ago

I remember a Windows Blackcomb demo from 2003 that had features as subscriptions. So you got it exactly right with 20 Years

cududa 3y ago
I think you mean Longhorn?

rhplus 3y ago

The kernel team still call it Windows 10. From their perspective, the latest Windows 11 update is just Windows 10.0.22621.2361!

zeusk 3y ago
The kernel team doesn't use either version, they use release monikers internally (ie. Threshold, RS1-RS5, 19h1-22h2, Sun Valley 1, SV2 etc.) But also, internal interfaces and external interfaces are rev'd so teams tend to talk about the different interfaces they work with (ie. dxgi 1.2, dx12_3, wddm 3.2, UMDF 2.1) or the different internal versions of apisets.