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This is a funny example because Apple has disproven this logic just as often as they have proven it. Carplay and the App Store are two examples. People genera

by slg 3y ago

This is a funny example because Apple has disproven this logic just as often as they have proven it. Carplay and the App Store are two examples. People generally prefer the software Apple makes over the software car manufacturers make. People also like to install their own software on their devices beyond the software that Apple makes. Just because vertical integration occasionally works doesn't mean it is actually good for the consumer.

kajecounterhack 3y ago
> People also like to install their own software on their devices beyond the software that Apple makes. Omg this, can Apple please stop sabotaging Google Maps and Google Photos :(
- killerdhmo 3y ago
  … what is Apple sabotaging? Google intentionally holds back features on iOS… Source: former Xoogler PM
  - kajecounterhack 3y ago
    Honest question, is Google the one making it impossible to set Google Maps as the default maps option on Apple? Or making it impossible to one-click delete backed up photos? I fully believe Google holds back differentiating features and DSPA is certainly mismanaged, but I'd hope these basic functionalities are not the ones since there's always the tradeoff between serving 50%+ of your mobile users and trying to differentiate Android/Pixel... Apple does shit like make it impossible for Google Fi to set up easily on iPhone, so I just assumed most of the UX idiocy came from Apple's anticompetitive review process.
catchnear4321 3y ago
“good for the consumer” is as subjective as the consumer. the eu disagrees in that it views itself as representative of the consumer. similar to how us states set laws that may be more strict than others. get a large enough government of a populace with a large enough portion of the sales, and companies can be made to act. which can be good, but isn’t a guarantee. just because companies can be forced to act doesn’t mean the forced actions are actually good for the consumer. (plus a decent amount is political theatre.)

by slg 3y ago

kajecounterhack 3y ago

> People also like to install their own software on their devices beyond the software that Apple makes. Omg this, can Apple please stop sabotaging Google Maps and Google Photos :(

killerdhmo 3y ago
… what is Apple sabotaging? Google intentionally holds back features on iOS… Source: former Xoogler PM
- kajecounterhack 3y ago
  Honest question, is Google the one making it impossible to set Google Maps as the default maps option on Apple? Or making it impossible to one-click delete backed up photos? I fully believe Google holds back differentiating features and DSPA is certainly mismanaged, but I'd hope these basic functionalities are not the ones since there's always the tradeoff between serving 50%+ of your mobile users and trying to differentiate Android/Pixel... Apple does shit like make it impossible for Google Fi to set up easily on iPhone, so I just assumed most of the UX idiocy came from Apple's anticompetitive review process.

catchnear4321 3y ago

“good for the consumer” is as subjective as the consumer. the eu disagrees in that it views itself as representative of the consumer. similar to how us states set laws that may be more strict than others. get a large enough government of a populace with a large enough portion of the sales, and companies can be made to act. which can be good, but isn’t a guarantee. just because companies can be forced to act doesn’t mean the forced actions are actually good for the consumer. (plus a decent amount is political theatre.)