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> True, I think it happened because Rust community quite aggressively sought out those developers to gain market and mindshare. Guilty as charged, honestly. Bu

> True, I think it happened because Rust community quite aggressively sought out those developers to gain market and mindshare. Guilty as charged, honestly. But we were really target high performance web services where Rust really makes sense. And Rust has had a lot of success gaining market share in that area, but most people who work on things like that are writing closed source software and don't comment so much on the internet, so what you see online is mostly people blogging about their side project that doesn't need to serve a million concurrent connections.

piperswe 3y ago
I feel lucky(-ish) that the only web Rust project I've ever really worked on is one that absolutely takes advantage of Rust's performance, Cloudflare's Pingora. But yeah, CRUD app #64326 probably should just use Rails/Django/Phoenix/Go/etc. instead of Rust.
- geodel 3y ago
  This makes me think of another reason of Rust in web space. It is that Rust rather explicitly tried to create an image of real hardcore language used for serious systems stuff. And it is of course true in technical sense. In larger context however message became more of like if I use Rust my stuff will become serious. So now if someone is told their web app is cute little thing more suited for Rails/PHP/Go etc. they will feel patronized and try to use Rust despite being unsuitable because their app is going to be serious one.
  - cmrdporcupine 3y ago
    I had someone reach out to try to hire me last year to build a website. A neat and useful one, but a website. And they had decided they wanted to use Rust, so they got in touch with me. This person was primarily non-technical, but an entrepreneur. I couldn't understand the decision making that led them there, other than: people had told him that Rust was the new good thing. So that's what he wanted.

piperswe 3y ago

I feel lucky(-ish) that the only web Rust project I've ever really worked on is one that absolutely takes advantage of Rust's performance, Cloudflare's Pingora. But yeah, CRUD app #64326 probably should just use Rails/Django/Phoenix/Go/etc. instead of Rust.

geodel 3y ago
This makes me think of another reason of Rust in web space. It is that Rust rather explicitly tried to create an image of real hardcore language used for serious systems stuff. And it is of course true in technical sense. In larger context however message became more of like if I use Rust my stuff will become serious. So now if someone is told their web app is cute little thing more suited for Rails/PHP/Go etc. they will feel patronized and try to use Rust despite being unsuitable because their app is going to be serious one.
- cmrdporcupine 3y ago
  I had someone reach out to try to hire me last year to build a website. A neat and useful one, but a website. And they had decided they wanted to use Rust, so they got in touch with me. This person was primarily non-technical, but an entrepreneur. I couldn't understand the decision making that led them there, other than: people had told him that Rust was the new good thing. So that's what he wanted.