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I think they will offer two options, advertising or advanced features. The advertising option speaks for itself. The will put ads in different parts of the O/S

I think they will offer two options, advertising or advanced features. The advertising option speaks for itself. The will put ads in different parts of the O/S. Kiss goodbye to any privacy you thought you had. The features option will make more O/S options like photo and video editing apps a subscription type model. Pay $10 a year and get the advanced features. Either way, I think this should help Apple and open source operating systems.

JohnClark1337 3y ago
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alanfranz 3y ago
Usd 10/year is entirely reasonable. But I fear an higher fee.
- fluoridation 3y ago
  If your average user buys a new version every 5 years and the Pro version costs $250, they could charge $50/yr. $10/yr would be quite generous, unless they think they can get lots of people to stop pirating the OS. $10/month seems like an unlikely price point.
  - kyriakos 3y ago
    I honestly don't understand why anyone would pirate windows. Its full featured if you don't activate apart from a watermark. If you choose to activate you can get an oem key for like 10 usd.
- seanw444 3y ago
  $1/year is entirely unreasonable. They build a product, they sell it to you, transaction ends there. They should sell you a product that works. Bug fixes are part of making the thing you bought closer to what was advertised, so it's part of the initial purchase. An OS is not a SaaS, and nobody considered doing it until it became popular, because it's a fad.
  - alanfranz 3y ago
    Of course a subscription would imply no upfront fee.
    - intvocoder 3y ago
      They're (presumably) double-dipping, the PC OEMs are already paying for the license.
      - alanfranz 3y ago
        In that case even $1/year would be unreasonable.
  - warrenm 3y ago
    >Bug fixes are part of making the thing you bought closer to what was advertised, so it's part of the initial purchase Says who, exactly? Why should bug fixes be included? If they should, for how long should they?
trelane 3y ago
> The will put ads in different parts of the O/S. They have already been doing this. https://www.pcworld.com/article/1790329/i-paid-for-microsoft-windows-why-does-it-push-ads-on-me.html https://www.pcworld.com/article/1790329/i-paid-for-microsoft... https://www.theregister.com/2023/04/17/microsoft_windows_start_ads/ https://www.theregister.com/2023/04/17/microsoft_windows_sta... Perhaps you mean third party ads from their ad network? https://about.ads.microsoft.com/en-us https://about.ads.microsoft.com/en-us Wait, they already do: https://about.ads.microsoft.com/en-us/solutions/ad-products/microsoft-store-ads https://about.ads.microsoft.com/en-us/solutions/ad-products/... > Kiss goodbye to any privacy you thought you had. If you haven't already, it's too late. https://www.computerworld.com/article/3684413/how-to-protect-your-privacy-in-windows-11.html https://www.computerworld.com/article/3684413/how-to-protect... https://www.wired.com/story/windows-10-privacy-settings/ https://www.wired.com/story/windows-10-privacy-settings/ > Either way, I think this should help Apple and open source operating systems. Doubtful. They've not cared so far, I don't know what's going to really have to change. Most folks I know don't really care about the OS, but many or all they apps they've learned are only on Windows. So they see themselves as trapped.

JohnClark1337 3y ago

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alanfranz 3y ago

Usd 10/year is entirely reasonable. But I fear an higher fee.

fluoridation 3y ago
If your average user buys a new version every 5 years and the Pro version costs $250, they could charge $50/yr. $10/yr would be quite generous, unless they think they can get lots of people to stop pirating the OS. $10/month seems like an unlikely price point.
- kyriakos 3y ago
  I honestly don't understand why anyone would pirate windows. Its full featured if you don't activate apart from a watermark. If you choose to activate you can get an oem key for like 10 usd.
seanw444 3y ago
$1/year is entirely unreasonable. They build a product, they sell it to you, transaction ends there. They should sell you a product that works. Bug fixes are part of making the thing you bought closer to what was advertised, so it's part of the initial purchase. An OS is not a SaaS, and nobody considered doing it until it became popular, because it's a fad.
- alanfranz 3y ago
  Of course a subscription would imply no upfront fee.
  - intvocoder 3y ago
    They're (presumably) double-dipping, the PC OEMs are already paying for the license.
    - alanfranz 3y ago
      In that case even $1/year would be unreasonable.
- warrenm 3y ago
  >Bug fixes are part of making the thing you bought closer to what was advertised, so it's part of the initial purchase Says who, exactly? Why should bug fixes be included? If they should, for how long should they?

trelane 3y ago

> The will put ads in different parts of the O/S. They have already been doing this. https://www.pcworld.com/article/1790329/i-paid-for-microsoft-windows-why-does-it-push-ads-on-me.html https://www.pcworld.com/article/1790329/i-paid-for-microsoft... https://www.theregister.com/2023/04/17/microsoft_windows_start_ads/ https://www.theregister.com/2023/04/17/microsoft_windows_sta... Perhaps you mean third party ads from their ad network? https://about.ads.microsoft.com/en-us https://about.ads.microsoft.com/en-us Wait, they already do: https://about.ads.microsoft.com/en-us/solutions/ad-products/microsoft-store-ads https://about.ads.microsoft.com/en-us/solutions/ad-products/... > Kiss goodbye to any privacy you thought you had. If you haven't already, it's too late. https://www.computerworld.com/article/3684413/how-to-protect-your-privacy-in-windows-11.html https://www.computerworld.com/article/3684413/how-to-protect... https://www.wired.com/story/windows-10-privacy-settings/ https://www.wired.com/story/windows-10-privacy-settings/ > Either way, I think this should help Apple and open source operating systems. Doubtful. They've not cared so far, I don't know what's going to really have to change. Most folks I know don't really care about the OS, but many or all they apps they've learned are only on Windows. So they see themselves as trapped.