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> I'm in a country where I can't just be fired without notice so that union doesnt do much for me there either. In most countries, this didn't happen out of no

> I'm in a country where I can't just be fired without notice so that union doesnt do much for me there either. In most countries, this didn't happen out of nowhere.

nsxwolf 3y ago
Point out the underperformance of unions and the response is always yeah but they got us weekends off 100 years ago. What have you done for me lately?
- toomuchtodo 3y ago
  Working on the 4 day workweek in the US at the moment. Progress takes time, it's impossible until it is done.
  - edgyquant 3y ago
    What Unions are working on this and what progress has been made?
    - toomuchtodo 3y ago
      UAW: https://www.google.com/search?q=uaw+4+day+week https://www.google.com/search?q=uaw+4+day+week | https://www.npr.org/2023/09/11/1198394085/uaw-big-3-automakers-4-day-work-week-shawn-fain-detroit https://www.npr.org/2023/09/11/1198394085/uaw-big-3-automake... | https://www.axios.com/2023/09/25/uaw-4-day-workweek https://www.axios.com/2023/09/25/uaw-4-day-workweek 900 US school districts because they can't retain teacher talent otherwise: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/school-districts-4-day-week-teachers-parents/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/school-districts-4-day-week-tea... | https://www.ncsl.org/education/four-day-school-week-overview https://www.ncsl.org/education/four-day-school-week-overview
  - gardenhedge 3y ago
    That's just doing 5 days of work in 4 days..
    - toomuchtodo 3y ago
      Why are you working 5 days if productivity can either be maintained or take an acceptable reduction to go to 4 days? People work to live, not live to work.
  - HDThoreaun 3y ago
    If I had to guess I'd say UAW will get destroyed here and the end result will be more mexican factories but we will see. Seems extremely unlikely that they get the 4 day work week either way.
- afavour 3y ago
  Union membership has been declining for decades. They’re not as effective when they don’t have the numbers to back it up.

> I'm in a country where I can't just be fired without notice so that union doesnt do much for me there either. In most countries, this didn't happen out of nowhere.

nsxwolf 3y ago

Point out the underperformance of unions and the response is always yeah but they got us weekends off 100 years ago. What have you done for me lately?

toomuchtodo 3y ago
Working on the 4 day workweek in the US at the moment. Progress takes time, it's impossible until it is done.
- edgyquant 3y ago
  What Unions are working on this and what progress has been made?
  - toomuchtodo 3y ago
    UAW: https://www.google.com/search?q=uaw+4+day+week https://www.google.com/search?q=uaw+4+day+week | https://www.npr.org/2023/09/11/1198394085/uaw-big-3-automakers-4-day-work-week-shawn-fain-detroit https://www.npr.org/2023/09/11/1198394085/uaw-big-3-automake... | https://www.axios.com/2023/09/25/uaw-4-day-workweek https://www.axios.com/2023/09/25/uaw-4-day-workweek 900 US school districts because they can't retain teacher talent otherwise: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/school-districts-4-day-week-teachers-parents/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/school-districts-4-day-week-tea... | https://www.ncsl.org/education/four-day-school-week-overview https://www.ncsl.org/education/four-day-school-week-overview
- gardenhedge 3y ago
  That's just doing 5 days of work in 4 days..
  - toomuchtodo 3y ago
    Why are you working 5 days if productivity can either be maintained or take an acceptable reduction to go to 4 days? People work to live, not live to work.
- HDThoreaun 3y ago
  If I had to guess I'd say UAW will get destroyed here and the end result will be more mexican factories but we will see. Seems extremely unlikely that they get the 4 day work week either way.
afavour 3y ago
Union membership has been declining for decades. They’re not as effective when they don’t have the numbers to back it up.