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Legal requirement in the UK. No way around it.

by Teandw 3y ago

dgb23 3y ago
Even if you don't actually track users? > We use Google Analytics to measure how you use the website so we can improve it based on user needs. Google Analytics sets cookies that store anonymised information about how you got to the site, the blog pages you visit, how long you spend on each page and what you click on while you're visiting the site.
- sofixa 3y ago
  Why would they not track users? They need to know how many users there are accessing from abroad (considering this is the UK which has many legitimate "abroads" like crown dependencies outside of the classic British citizens living outside of Britain), using what browsers and OSes, display sizes to know what they need to support. It would also be useful to know how much time users spend on the various pages, to know if some forms are super complex to fill out or what not.
  - lambic 3y ago
    Sure, but why use google analytics? There are better trackers for this kind of thing that don't need cookies and can be self-hosted.
    - kamel3d 3y ago
      Could you recommend some alternatives to Google Analytics? I am developing a plugin for Photoshop using UXP, and I have been unable to integrate it with GA.
      - notpushkin 3y ago
        Plausible seems like a fine choice for simple cases. It is oriented at websites, but you can send events directly to the API: https://plausible.io/docs/events-api https://plausible.io/docs/events-api It is self-hostable, too. https://github.com/plausible/hosting https://github.com/plausible/hosting
      - lambic 3y ago
        We use Matomo and have been fairly happy with it.
bux93 3y ago
The pop-up allows you to switch off certain functionality (statistics cookies). If that functionality wasn't there in the first place, the pop-up would not be needed. Don't shoot the messenger.
pjc50 3y ago
I would have hoped the government would be able to design a system that works only on "technical necessity" cookies and not anything more elaborate with regards to PII.
switch007 3y ago
Only if you store non-essential cookies, as explained by the team themselves: > You can choose not to have a cookie banner if the service only sets essential or ‘strictly necessary’ cookies, as these do not need user consent. > However, you must tell users that you set essential cookies. You can do this with a cookies page — link to this page in the footer. https://design-system.service.gov.uk/components/cookie-banner/ https://design-system.service.gov.uk/components/cookie-banne...

Legal requirement in the UK. No way around it.

by Teandw 3y ago

Legal requirement in the UK. No way around it.

Even if you don't actually track users? > We use Google Analytics to measure how you use the website so we can improve it based on user needs. Google Analytics sets cookies that store anonymised information about how you got to the site, the blog pages you visit, how long you spend on each page and what you click on while you're visiting the site.

sofixa 3y ago
Why would they not track users? They need to know how many users there are accessing from abroad (considering this is the UK which has many legitimate "abroads" like crown dependencies outside of the classic British citizens living outside of Britain), using what browsers and OSes, display sizes to know what they need to support. It would also be useful to know how much time users spend on the various pages, to know if some forms are super complex to fill out or what not.
- lambic 3y ago
  Sure, but why use google analytics? There are better trackers for this kind of thing that don't need cookies and can be self-hosted.
  - kamel3d 3y ago
    Could you recommend some alternatives to Google Analytics? I am developing a plugin for Photoshop using UXP, and I have been unable to integrate it with GA.
    - notpushkin 3y ago
      Plausible seems like a fine choice for simple cases. It is oriented at websites, but you can send events directly to the API: https://plausible.io/docs/events-api https://plausible.io/docs/events-api It is self-hostable, too. https://github.com/plausible/hosting https://github.com/plausible/hosting
    - lambic 3y ago
      We use Matomo and have been fairly happy with it.

bux93 3y ago

The pop-up allows you to switch off certain functionality (statistics cookies). If that functionality wasn't there in the first place, the pop-up would not be needed. Don't shoot the messenger.

pjc50 3y ago

I would have hoped the government would be able to design a system that works only on "technical necessity" cookies and not anything more elaborate with regards to PII.

switch007 3y ago

Only if you store non-essential cookies, as explained by the team themselves: > You can choose not to have a cookie banner if the service only sets essential or ‘strictly necessary’ cookies, as these do not need user consent. > However, you must tell users that you set essential cookies. You can do this with a cookies page — link to this page in the footer. https://design-system.service.gov.uk/components/cookie-banner/ https://design-system.service.gov.uk/components/cookie-banne...