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Most of this post is verifiably not true with a quick search. > rejected from steam with no explanation beyond "it appears your game contains AI generated cont

Most of this post is verifiably not true with a quick search. > rejected from steam with no explanation beyond "it appears your game contains AI generated content." They say nothing beyond that. Their actual message, which has more details, can be found at https://www.reddit.com/r/aigamedev/comments/142j3yt/valve_is_not_willing_to_publish_games_with_ai/?rdt=59844 https://www.reddit.com/r/aigamedev/comments/142j3yt/valve_is.... One important quote: > In particular, [Game Name Here] contains art assets generated by artificial intelligence that appears to be relying on copyrighted material owned by third parties. As the legal ownership of such AI-generated art is unclear, we cannot ship your game while it contains these AI-generated assets Additionally, Valve has put out a number of clarifying responses to journalists. https://www.polygon.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/23783520/steam-valve-ai-content-policy https://www.polygon.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/23783520/... https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/1/23781339/valve-steam-ai-artwork-rejecting-banning-pc-games https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/1/23781339/valve-steam-ai-ar...

sillysaurusx 3y ago
I think we might be talking past each other, or we’ll have to agree to disagree. I stand by my claim that that message has no explanation, no details, and no specific steps for developers to reform their game. They even threaten the developer by saying they have exactly one chance to remove all of the unnamed supposedly-infringing content, or else they’ll never be able to publish their game. I should sign off now because I was about to write “in what universe does this seem reasonable?” and then I remembered it’s not worth getting dragged down by this nonsense. There are lots of intellectually satisfying problems to work on. Valve may be relevant now, but a decade tends to favor upstarts. The way to deal with this is to make Valve irrelevant, which is a matter of patience and time.
andybak 3y ago
One case I recall was a developer who used AI text to speech for speech synthesis and was rejected for "using AI". If this report (and my recollection) is accurate then Valve do seem to be taking it to ridiculous extreme. (EDIT - My recollection wasn't entirely accurate. It was NPC dialogue generation: https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/167iied/the_game_ive_spent_35_years_and_my_savings_on_has/ https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/167iied/the_game_i... )
- hiatus 3y ago
  Why should we prefer your recollection over your parent's links?
  - andybak 3y ago
    Fair enough. I've found the link: https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/167iied/the_game_ive_spent_35_years_and_my_savings_on_has/ https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/167iied/the_game_i... And my recollection was faulty. It wasn't speech generation - it was an optional ChatGPT-based dialogue generation for NPCs. The dev had to remove all traces of it but did get reapproved.

sillysaurusx 3y ago

I think we might be talking past each other, or we’ll have to agree to disagree. I stand by my claim that that message has no explanation, no details, and no specific steps for developers to reform their game. They even threaten the developer by saying they have exactly one chance to remove all of the unnamed supposedly-infringing content, or else they’ll never be able to publish their game. I should sign off now because I was about to write “in what universe does this seem reasonable?” and then I remembered it’s not worth getting dragged down by this nonsense. There are lots of intellectually satisfying problems to work on. Valve may be relevant now, but a decade tends to favor upstarts. The way to deal with this is to make Valve irrelevant, which is a matter of patience and time.

andybak 3y ago

One case I recall was a developer who used AI text to speech for speech synthesis and was rejected for "using AI". If this report (and my recollection) is accurate then Valve do seem to be taking it to ridiculous extreme. (EDIT - My recollection wasn't entirely accurate. It was NPC dialogue generation: https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/167iied/the_game_ive_spent_35_years_and_my_savings_on_has/ https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/167iied/the_game_i... )

hiatus 3y ago
Why should we prefer your recollection over your parent's links?
- andybak 3y ago
  Fair enough. I've found the link: https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/167iied/the_game_ive_spent_35_years_and_my_savings_on_has/ https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/167iied/the_game_i... And my recollection was faulty. It wasn't speech generation - it was an optional ChatGPT-based dialogue generation for NPCs. The dev had to remove all traces of it but did get reapproved.