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He's probably talking about the KN95/FFP2 kind of masks which were mandatory in Austria and Germany. Those are really uncomfortable for prelonged wear.

bookofjoe 3y ago
Again, it all depends on your frame of reference. I wore an N95 mask all day when I was out and about during the worst of the epidemic and didn't find it at all uncomfortable. Diff'rent strokes
kuschku 3y ago
I usually wear an FFP3 at CCC events when I'm in an enclosed space. The only issues I've had so far is when carrying heavy loads (we need Engel, btw!) I sometimes soak the mask in sweat so quickly that I need to replace it every hour. But the mask itself, if worn properly, provides no discomfort whatsoever.
- Aachen 3y ago
  "if worn properly, no discomfort whatsoever" Teach me. I'm at an event right now (not CCC obviously) and wearing a mask for some hours and it's killing, making me look for any opportunity to get outside and take it off for five minutes. It pulls on both ears, pushes onto the bridge of my nose (that issue seems to be this particular mask though), and depending on how I adjust it, either shoots jets or air into my eyes or onto my glasses and fogging them up. How does one wear this "properly"? Not like you can turn it upside down or inside out, I'm not sure what options I have? I've tried one of these plastic things for behind your head, so it doesn't have to hold onto the ears directly, but that trades added nose hurt for reduced ear hurt. This has been the case with all masks in the past years btw, so unless there's a secret brand, I'd not guess it's brand related. The thing has to be somewhat leak-proof for it to work so that seemed to make sense to me It's not like this is mandatory atm, just trying to do the right thing (most people don't wear one)...
  - bookofjoe 3y ago
    This is the model mask I've used and continue to use since the epidemic began (this is NOT a photo of me). https://austintechsupply.com/blogs/news/benefits-to-wearing-an-n95-mask https://austintechsupply.com/blogs/news/benefits-to-wearing-... You will note that, unlike the masks most people wear, it goes around the head, not over the ears, and employs not one but two flat rubber head straps. IMHO ear-mounted masks cannot possible be as closely fitting over the face and effective as those that go over the head. I first saw this mask in a photo of President Biden, who was wearing one. I figured if it was good enough for him and his advisers it was plenty good enough for me. Available (Amazon U.S.) here for about 60 cents apiece for a pack of 20: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09FM2P1KF?ref=nb_sb_ss_w_as-reorder-t1_k0_1_3&amp=&crid=3RO94GZUQSAV8&sprefix=3m%2B&th=1 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09FM2P1KF?ref=nb_sb_ss_w_as-reord...
    - Aachen 3y ago
      Thanks, I'll look for such a model europeside and give that a try!
      - bookofjoe 3y ago
        Here they are at Amazon Germany: https://www.amazon.de/-/en/AuraTM-Particle-without-Valve-Masks-dp-B0BQJQPXNR/dp/B0BQJQPXNR/ref=dp_ob_image_def https://www.amazon.de/-/en/AuraTM-Particle-without-Valve-Mas... About 4x more expensive than in the U.S.
        Aachen 3y ago
        I'm not that big a fan of ordering from Amazon but thanks nevertheless!
    - suyjuris 3y ago
      I use these as well (3M Aura). They are much more comfortable than the more common types of FFP2 masks and I can wear them for prolonged periods of time without issue, but I would not classify them as “no discomfort whatsoever”. Also, they have a very good fit – other FFP2 masks I had to fiddle around with quite a bit to get a good seal around my nose.

bookofjoe 3y ago

Again, it all depends on your frame of reference. I wore an N95 mask all day when I was out and about during the worst of the epidemic and didn't find it at all uncomfortable. Diff'rent strokes

kuschku 3y ago

I usually wear an FFP3 at CCC events when I'm in an enclosed space. The only issues I've had so far is when carrying heavy loads (we need Engel, btw!) I sometimes soak the mask in sweat so quickly that I need to replace it every hour. But the mask itself, if worn properly, provides no discomfort whatsoever.

Aachen 3y ago
"if worn properly, no discomfort whatsoever" Teach me. I'm at an event right now (not CCC obviously) and wearing a mask for some hours and it's killing, making me look for any opportunity to get outside and take it off for five minutes. It pulls on both ears, pushes onto the bridge of my nose (that issue seems to be this particular mask though), and depending on how I adjust it, either shoots jets or air into my eyes or onto my glasses and fogging them up. How does one wear this "properly"? Not like you can turn it upside down or inside out, I'm not sure what options I have? I've tried one of these plastic things for behind your head, so it doesn't have to hold onto the ears directly, but that trades added nose hurt for reduced ear hurt. This has been the case with all masks in the past years btw, so unless there's a secret brand, I'd not guess it's brand related. The thing has to be somewhat leak-proof for it to work so that seemed to make sense to me It's not like this is mandatory atm, just trying to do the right thing (most people don't wear one)...
- bookofjoe 3y ago
  This is the model mask I've used and continue to use since the epidemic began (this is NOT a photo of me). https://austintechsupply.com/blogs/news/benefits-to-wearing-an-n95-mask https://austintechsupply.com/blogs/news/benefits-to-wearing-... You will note that, unlike the masks most people wear, it goes around the head, not over the ears, and employs not one but two flat rubber head straps. IMHO ear-mounted masks cannot possible be as closely fitting over the face and effective as those that go over the head. I first saw this mask in a photo of President Biden, who was wearing one. I figured if it was good enough for him and his advisers it was plenty good enough for me. Available (Amazon U.S.) here for about 60 cents apiece for a pack of 20: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09FM2P1KF?ref=nb_sb_ss_w_as-reorder-t1_k0_1_3&amp=&crid=3RO94GZUQSAV8&sprefix=3m%2B&th=1 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09FM2P1KF?ref=nb_sb_ss_w_as-reord...
  - Aachen 3y ago
    Thanks, I'll look for such a model europeside and give that a try!
    - bookofjoe 3y ago
      Here they are at Amazon Germany: https://www.amazon.de/-/en/AuraTM-Particle-without-Valve-Masks-dp-B0BQJQPXNR/dp/B0BQJQPXNR/ref=dp_ob_image_def https://www.amazon.de/-/en/AuraTM-Particle-without-Valve-Mas... About 4x more expensive than in the U.S.
      - Aachen 3y ago
        I'm not that big a fan of ordering from Amazon but thanks nevertheless!
  - suyjuris 3y ago
    I use these as well (3M Aura). They are much more comfortable than the more common types of FFP2 masks and I can wear them for prolonged periods of time without issue, but I would not classify them as “no discomfort whatsoever”. Also, they have a very good fit – other FFP2 masks I had to fiddle around with quite a bit to get a good seal around my nose.