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Even better would be to avoid diabetes and hypertension, diseases that are essentially caused and shaped by personal lifestyle. Overeating, malnutrition, lack o

Even better would be to avoid diabetes and hypertension, diseases that are essentially caused and shaped by personal lifestyle. Overeating, malnutrition, lack of exercise.

xattt 3y ago
> Overeating, malnutrition, lack of exercise. Are you saying we need a new monoclonal antibody to address this?
- Borrible 3y ago
  From a healthy business perspective, the most profitable technical solution should always be preferred to behavioral therapy and social change... Ozempic is a great example.
xsdu 3y ago
Lots of people on dialysis are there through no fault of their own. My mother and other members of my family were born with a kidney disease, and died while doing everything correctly.
dghughes 3y ago
My grandmother practically a vegetarian, worked on a farm, up at 4am each day to bake bread, had 10 children. Walked everywhere and never sat around not in any way fat. She developed type II diabetes. My Dad was overweight but active. Later in life after retirement sat around but still fished and like yard work and home repairs. His brothers and sisters had diabetes Dad never developed it. I'm not denying poor lifestyle can be a cause then again it can seem to be a crap shoot.
jmisavage 3y ago
Even doing everything right doesn’t mean you won’t have this happen to you. I’m an avid cyclist that does hundreds of miles per week, I have type 2 diabetes with an A1c score better than most normal adults, I’m not overweight, have normal blood pressure and with all of that I’m still in stage 3 renal failure.
b0bb0 3y ago
Do you have any experience with the devastation caused by illness out of your control?
- Borrible 3y ago
  Sure, I'm working for German health insurances and service providers in data engineering, data analysis and BI Reporting, know the studies and statistics and once was a dialysis and intensive care specialised nurse for 12 years. I placed the last dialysis cannula in 2006 on a Cimino shunt and connected the patient to a Fresenius 4008B. We also used Gambro AK 200, but for some reasons we prefered the handling of the Fresnius machines. Are these types of devices still in use today? I also read the patient files and talked to the patients. You have quite a close relationship with people you care for professionally on average three times a week for 4-5 hours over years. You know them quite well after some time. But, you can't base health care decisions on anecdota, can't you? But, I found that the statistics corresponded to my observations. People are peole. Of course, not everyone who is overweight gets kidney failure, and not everyone with kidney failure has it because of their lifestyle. There are chains of probabilities that add up. That's a no-brainer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_kidney_disease#Causes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_kidney_disease#Causes
PhasmaFelis 3y ago
Oh, good, victim-blaming.

Even better would be to avoid diabetes and hypertension, diseases that are essentially caused and shaped by personal lifestyle. Overeating, malnutrition, lack of exercise.

xattt 3y ago

> Overeating, malnutrition, lack of exercise. Are you saying we need a new monoclonal antibody to address this?

Borrible 3y ago
From a healthy business perspective, the most profitable technical solution should always be preferred to behavioral therapy and social change... Ozempic is a great example.

xsdu 3y ago

Lots of people on dialysis are there through no fault of their own. My mother and other members of my family were born with a kidney disease, and died while doing everything correctly.

dghughes 3y ago

My grandmother practically a vegetarian, worked on a farm, up at 4am each day to bake bread, had 10 children. Walked everywhere and never sat around not in any way fat. She developed type II diabetes. My Dad was overweight but active. Later in life after retirement sat around but still fished and like yard work and home repairs. His brothers and sisters had diabetes Dad never developed it. I'm not denying poor lifestyle can be a cause then again it can seem to be a crap shoot.

jmisavage 3y ago

Even doing everything right doesn’t mean you won’t have this happen to you. I’m an avid cyclist that does hundreds of miles per week, I have type 2 diabetes with an A1c score better than most normal adults, I’m not overweight, have normal blood pressure and with all of that I’m still in stage 3 renal failure.

b0bb0 3y ago

Do you have any experience with the devastation caused by illness out of your control?

Borrible 3y ago
Sure, I'm working for German health insurances and service providers in data engineering, data analysis and BI Reporting, know the studies and statistics and once was a dialysis and intensive care specialised nurse for 12 years. I placed the last dialysis cannula in 2006 on a Cimino shunt and connected the patient to a Fresenius 4008B. We also used Gambro AK 200, but for some reasons we prefered the handling of the Fresnius machines. Are these types of devices still in use today? I also read the patient files and talked to the patients. You have quite a close relationship with people you care for professionally on average three times a week for 4-5 hours over years. You know them quite well after some time. But, you can't base health care decisions on anecdota, can't you? But, I found that the statistics corresponded to my observations. People are peole. Of course, not everyone who is overweight gets kidney failure, and not everyone with kidney failure has it because of their lifestyle. There are chains of probabilities that add up. That's a no-brainer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_kidney_disease#Causes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_kidney_disease#Causes

PhasmaFelis 3y ago

Oh, good, victim-blaming.