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The problem with adopting requirements more stringent than national requirements is that many people may not be able to comply. As an example, one of the things

The problem with adopting requirements more stringent than national requirements is that many people may not be able to comply. As an example, one of the things this site suggests as an option is "Require vaccines, including boosters". In my country at least (UK), it's not yet possible for an individual to pay to have a booster and so the only way of getting another vaccine shot is for free via the NHS. However, this is only available if you are sufficiently old (I believe over 50) or in a "vulnerable group", so teachers, someone working in healthcare, or someone who has a pre-existing medical condition that makes them more likely to have more severe effects. So, far from making it more open to all, this suggestion massively limits the potential attendee pool. Of course, the other suggestions like not attending if you have any symptoms or having negative test results, seem like good steps in the right direction. Masking is another issue - maybe it'd be OK for a 1 day event, but personally, I wouldn't attend a 3 day event if I had to wear a mask the whole time, because they are uncomfortable for prolonged periods. I was super vigilant during and after COVID and always wore a mask when I would encounter people, but because I didn't enjoy wearing a mask, I decided it was better to largely stay at home where I didn't need to interact with people instead. I'm happy to agree that the preference to not wear a mask is selfish, but it's still an interesting question on how many people would choose to not attend because they don't want 3 days of discomfort compared to how many vulnerable people would choose to attend if everyone was wearing masks. My gut feeling is that people who are that vulnerable would still rather stay away and avoid crowds because there would still be a non-zero risk, but equally I can see that some people might be glad for an opportunity to finally do something in a larger group that's safer than normal larger groups.

bookofjoe 3y ago
>Masking is another issue - maybe it'd be OK for a 1 day event, but personally, I wouldn't attend a 3 day event if I had to wear a mask the whole time, because they are uncomfortable for prolonged periods. I guess it's all of matter of circumstance: as an anesthesiology resident/attending/private practitioner from 1977-2015, I normally wore a mask in the OR all day and sometimes all night. It never occurred to me that this was uncomfortable — it was like a fish in water: this is the life I had chosen.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  He's probably talking about the KN95/FFP2 kind of masks which were mandatory in Austria and Germany. Those are really uncomfortable for prelonged wear.
  - bookofjoe 3y ago
    Again, it all depends on your frame of reference. I wore an N95 mask all day when I was out and about during the worst of the epidemic and didn't find it at all uncomfortable. Diff'rent strokes
  - kuschku 3y ago
    I usually wear an FFP3 at CCC events when I'm in an enclosed space. The only issues I've had so far is when carrying heavy loads (we need Engel, btw!) I sometimes soak the mask in sweat so quickly that I need to replace it every hour. But the mask itself, if worn properly, provides no discomfort whatsoever.
    - Aachen 3y ago
      "if worn properly, no discomfort whatsoever" Teach me. I'm at an event right now (not CCC obviously) and wearing a mask for some hours and it's killing, making me look for any opportunity to get outside and take it off for five minutes. It pulls on both ears, pushes onto the bridge of my nose (that issue seems to be this particular mask though), and depending on how I adjust it, either shoots jets or air into my eyes or onto my glasses and fogging them up. How does one wear this "properly"? Not like you can turn it upside down or inside out, I'm not sure what options I have? I've tried one of these plastic things for behind your head, so it doesn't have to hold onto the ears directly, but that trades added nose hurt for reduced ear hurt. This has been the case with all masks in the past years btw, so unless there's a secret brand, I'd not guess it's brand related. The thing has to be somewhat leak-proof for it to work so that seemed to make sense to me It's not like this is mandatory atm, just trying to do the right thing (most people don't wear one)...
      - 3y ago

bookofjoe 3y ago

>Masking is another issue - maybe it'd be OK for a 1 day event, but personally, I wouldn't attend a 3 day event if I had to wear a mask the whole time, because they are uncomfortable for prolonged periods. I guess it's all of matter of circumstance: as an anesthesiology resident/attending/private practitioner from 1977-2015, I normally wore a mask in the OR all day and sometimes all night. It never occurred to me that this was uncomfortable — it was like a fish in water: this is the life I had chosen.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
He's probably talking about the KN95/FFP2 kind of masks which were mandatory in Austria and Germany. Those are really uncomfortable for prelonged wear.
- bookofjoe 3y ago
  Again, it all depends on your frame of reference. I wore an N95 mask all day when I was out and about during the worst of the epidemic and didn't find it at all uncomfortable. Diff'rent strokes
- kuschku 3y ago
  I usually wear an FFP3 at CCC events when I'm in an enclosed space. The only issues I've had so far is when carrying heavy loads (we need Engel, btw!) I sometimes soak the mask in sweat so quickly that I need to replace it every hour. But the mask itself, if worn properly, provides no discomfort whatsoever.
  - Aachen 3y ago
    "if worn properly, no discomfort whatsoever" Teach me. I'm at an event right now (not CCC obviously) and wearing a mask for some hours and it's killing, making me look for any opportunity to get outside and take it off for five minutes. It pulls on both ears, pushes onto the bridge of my nose (that issue seems to be this particular mask though), and depending on how I adjust it, either shoots jets or air into my eyes or onto my glasses and fogging them up. How does one wear this "properly"? Not like you can turn it upside down or inside out, I'm not sure what options I have? I've tried one of these plastic things for behind your head, so it doesn't have to hold onto the ears directly, but that trades added nose hurt for reduced ear hurt. This has been the case with all masks in the past years btw, so unless there's a secret brand, I'd not guess it's brand related. The thing has to be somewhat leak-proof for it to work so that seemed to make sense to me It's not like this is mandatory atm, just trying to do the right thing (most people don't wear one)...
    - 3y ago