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You can scale locations. In a fair area you can always add a hall until you run out of halls, then you move to a bigger fair in another city. What doesn't scal

You can scale locations. In a fair area you can always add a hall until you run out of halls, then you move to a bigger fair in another city. What doesn't scale is the people who organise everything. If they don't want to organise ever bigger events, then they are free to switch back to a smaller scale. It's not only the organisational overhead that increases, but also that a bigger event is not just a bigger event, but also becomes another type of event.

rdl 3y ago
Agree about scale making qualitative differences in events, but CCC has been happy operating at larger scale organizationally. I disagree with a lot of the organizational politics with CCC, but they're amazingly good at organizing events, and those events are really good. Combination of the main org/structure, volunteers, and especially making it somewhat federated with other groups/chapters doing their own stuff during the event as well. In this case CCH doesn't really have more space, and Leipzig sucked as a city to host events (no hotels/food/etc. immediately near the center, etc.). CCC is not so profitable as to get the truly top-end convention centers, and cares about the total cost/experience to participants (accommodations, food, side events, travel logistics). Hannover, Frankfurt, Dusseldorf, and Munich have the biggest ones in Germany. Berlin is almost as big; I think it's really expensive to book but if I had the money that would probably be much choice for ideal CCC location. CCH is really quite small as congress centers go.
- hansoolo 3y ago
  I cannot understand your concerns about hotel rooms and food tbh. There's a hotel and a shopping center neighboring the venue. Also going to the city center is just 2 stops by train away (or by tram, but it's a longer ride).

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You can scale locations. In a fair area you can always add a hall until you run out of halls, then you move to a bigger fair in another city. What doesn't scal

by omnibrain 3y ago

rdl 3y ago
Agree about scale making qualitative differences in events, but CCC has been happy operating at larger scale organizationally. I disagree with a lot of the organizational politics with CCC, but they're amazingly good at organizing events, and those events are really good. Combination of the main org/structure, volunteers, and especially making it somewhat federated with other groups/chapters doing their own stuff during the event as well. In this case CCH doesn't really have more space, and Leipzig sucked as a city to host events (no hotels/food/etc. immediately near the center, etc.). CCC is not so profitable as to get the truly top-end convention centers, and cares about the total cost/experience to participants (accommodations, food, side events, travel logistics). Hannover, Frankfurt, Dusseldorf, and Munich have the biggest ones in Germany. Berlin is almost as big; I think it's really expensive to book but if I had the money that would probably be much choice for ideal CCC location. CCH is really quite small as congress centers go.
- hansoolo 3y ago
  I cannot understand your concerns about hotel rooms and food tbh. There's a hotel and a shopping center neighboring the venue. Also going to the city center is just 2 stops by train away (or by tram, but it's a longer ride).