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Probably in the future people will only trust sources of info that can't be monatised. If you want to know the answer to a game question you just got to the red

Probably in the future people will only trust sources of info that can't be monatised. If you want to know the answer to a game question you just got to the reddit or discord and ask, since there is no point autogenerating crap for discord when you can't put ads next to it and the mods can remove you.

TerrifiedMouse 3y ago
Sadly Reddit is sort of monetized, as we have people selling accounts for what I believe are spamming and propaganda purposes.
- grotorea 3y ago
  Yes, but it's reddit monetizing, not the users. The users can be astroturfing, but there's no point astroturfing some types of content like game guides I hope.
  - TerrifiedMouse 3y ago
    Some users monetize it by selling their karma rich accounts to those astrosurfers you mentioned - or to spammers. They currently manufacture these karma rich accounts by reposting popular posts and comments. LLMs will soon be (or already are) another way to karma farm.
dfee 3y ago
Your response reminds me of Snowcrash :)
yellow_postit 3y ago
Discord has raised so much money and is part of the inflated valuation unicorns that I sadly wouldn’t be surprised if they somewhat get forced into Ads
- jppittma 3y ago
  I really like that service. I can't wait to see how they enshittify this one.
- Gigachad 3y ago
  The point is the user posting isn't able to put their own ads in. So they can't profit by flooding the platform with crap.
  - bennyg 3y ago
    Just wait for elevated server roles where the pfp and account banner are ads
  - loveparade 3y ago
    It's only a matter of time before things change with Discord monetization. On reddit there is an incentive to create LLM-powered fake accounts with high karma and sell them. It's true that on Discord this incentive doesn't exist right now because no karma equivalent is associated with Discord accounts, but eventually that's going to change as Discord, as a company, will try to monetize their user data in various ways. It's the typical overvalued VC-backed company dilemma that needs investor returns. Quora, Medium, and so on.
  - im3w1l 3y ago
    There are quite a few people that use reddit to market their onlyfans.
jayd16 3y ago
We could just dump crowd sourcing and go back to well known and reliable sources of journalism.
heavyset_go 3y ago
Platforms will be happy to run bots they can portray as real humans to bolster engagement, make spaces seem popular and dynamic, trick advertisers and investors, etc. Similarly, if it costs basically nothing to work your way into communities to astroturf with bots, it'll happen. You don't have to post about great sites to get free Viagra right away, you can build reputation and subtly astroturf. And you can use additional bots to build/portray consensus. Reddit is already a problem because of actual humans doing the latter. It'll just get worse when it's automated further.
RandomLensman 3y ago
I guess we need to again (and again) establish that having good information isn't necessarily cheap: could be a high quality vendor, policing a forum, maintaining search engine integrity, etc.

TerrifiedMouse 3y ago

Sadly Reddit is sort of monetized, as we have people selling accounts for what I believe are spamming and propaganda purposes.

grotorea 3y ago
Yes, but it's reddit monetizing, not the users. The users can be astroturfing, but there's no point astroturfing some types of content like game guides I hope.
- TerrifiedMouse 3y ago
  Some users monetize it by selling their karma rich accounts to those astrosurfers you mentioned - or to spammers. They currently manufacture these karma rich accounts by reposting popular posts and comments. LLMs will soon be (or already are) another way to karma farm.

dfee 3y ago

Your response reminds me of Snowcrash :)

yellow_postit 3y ago

Discord has raised so much money and is part of the inflated valuation unicorns that I sadly wouldn’t be surprised if they somewhat get forced into Ads

jppittma 3y ago
I really like that service. I can't wait to see how they enshittify this one.
Gigachad 3y ago
The point is the user posting isn't able to put their own ads in. So they can't profit by flooding the platform with crap.
- bennyg 3y ago
  Just wait for elevated server roles where the pfp and account banner are ads
- loveparade 3y ago
  It's only a matter of time before things change with Discord monetization. On reddit there is an incentive to create LLM-powered fake accounts with high karma and sell them. It's true that on Discord this incentive doesn't exist right now because no karma equivalent is associated with Discord accounts, but eventually that's going to change as Discord, as a company, will try to monetize their user data in various ways. It's the typical overvalued VC-backed company dilemma that needs investor returns. Quora, Medium, and so on.
- im3w1l 3y ago
  There are quite a few people that use reddit to market their onlyfans.

jayd16 3y ago

We could just dump crowd sourcing and go back to well known and reliable sources of journalism.

heavyset_go 3y ago

Platforms will be happy to run bots they can portray as real humans to bolster engagement, make spaces seem popular and dynamic, trick advertisers and investors, etc. Similarly, if it costs basically nothing to work your way into communities to astroturf with bots, it'll happen. You don't have to post about great sites to get free Viagra right away, you can build reputation and subtly astroturf. And you can use additional bots to build/portray consensus. Reddit is already a problem because of actual humans doing the latter. It'll just get worse when it's automated further.

RandomLensman 3y ago

I guess we need to again (and again) establish that having good information isn't necessarily cheap: could be a high quality vendor, policing a forum, maintaining search engine integrity, etc.