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I like the concept a lot, but I also think it should filter to only installable apps by default. If you detect a user is on a mobile device, it would probably a

I like the concept a lot, but I also think it should filter to only installable apps by default. If you detect a user is on a mobile device, it would probably also make sense to enable the mobile filter by default too. It would also be nice if there was an offline-capable filter as well, but maybe I missed it? I also notice the Developer tab is not part of the PWA, which kicks you out of the PWA experience on iOS, even though it seems like that marketing page could be contained within the tab? It might also be nice to link to resources for getting started on developing a high quality PWA, if any resources like that exist. Now that PWAs on iOS can finally show notifications (if the user wants), I hope more developers will take them seriously. I trust browser isolation more than I trust native app isolation, and a lot of the native apps that I use would work perfectly as a PWA.

matsz 3y ago
> PWAs on iOS can finally show notifications This has been such a great addition, once it was officially added I've quickly built a small web app that can now distribute notifications to all my devices effortlessly, with a single codebase and with no need to pay the dreaded $99/yr subscription. Haven't released that publicly but I might at some point once I clean up the mess that inevitably resulted from me writing it in around 2 hours.
- kyleee 3y ago
  Did you use a framework or anything? I’ve been working on a small vite/vue/nuxt PWA and I’ve been wondering about other options
  - matsz 3y ago
    Just React and fastify. I have my own authentication library that makes things easier but it's not production ready yet.
- danielskogly 3y ago
  Not sure if it's entirely similar, but there's also this for those who don't want to build it themselves: https://ntfy.sh/ https://ntfy.sh/
presson 3y ago
Thank you, this is great feedback. What to show and when has been an ongoing convo - we chose to evolve this based on supply side milestones. Keep an eye out for some cool updates :-). We don't yet have the ability to filter by offline-capable, but that's a great idea. Re the dev tab, this is a work in progress - right now a few things are split apart, but we'll be folding everything back together at some point. Re notifications, 100% agree - this was a major roadblock. The next few years are going to be very interesting :-P
- reustle 3y ago
  But isn’t “installable” the entire point of this site, and your company? If you want you help the discussion against native apps, you need to clearly take the side of proper installable PWAs, not just links to websites. It feels misleading and gives argument ammo to the “native always” crowd.

matsz 3y ago

> PWAs on iOS can finally show notifications This has been such a great addition, once it was officially added I've quickly built a small web app that can now distribute notifications to all my devices effortlessly, with a single codebase and with no need to pay the dreaded $99/yr subscription. Haven't released that publicly but I might at some point once I clean up the mess that inevitably resulted from me writing it in around 2 hours.

kyleee 3y ago
Did you use a framework or anything? I’ve been working on a small vite/vue/nuxt PWA and I’ve been wondering about other options
- matsz 3y ago
  Just React and fastify. I have my own authentication library that makes things easier but it's not production ready yet.
danielskogly 3y ago
Not sure if it's entirely similar, but there's also this for those who don't want to build it themselves: https://ntfy.sh/ https://ntfy.sh/

presson 3y ago

Thank you, this is great feedback. What to show and when has been an ongoing convo - we chose to evolve this based on supply side milestones. Keep an eye out for some cool updates :-). We don't yet have the ability to filter by offline-capable, but that's a great idea. Re the dev tab, this is a work in progress - right now a few things are split apart, but we'll be folding everything back together at some point. Re notifications, 100% agree - this was a major roadblock. The next few years are going to be very interesting :-P

reustle 3y ago
But isn’t “installable” the entire point of this site, and your company? If you want you help the discussion against native apps, you need to clearly take the side of proper installable PWAs, not just links to websites. It feels misleading and gives argument ammo to the “native always” crowd.