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It really wasn't for oil though. Iraq was likely revenge for an attempted assassination of Bush Sr. Also, the Taliban offered an unconditional surrender but Bu
by local_crmdgeon 3y ago
It really wasn't for oil though. Iraq was likely revenge for an attempted assassination of Bush Sr.
Also, the Taliban offered an unconditional surrender but Bush rejected it.
Now, instead, we have tens of thousands of young men who watched their little brother/sister/cousin/mother/father get blown up by American machinery, many of whom have never heard of 9/11.
It's just unfathomably bad.
- triceratops 3y ago> Also, the Taliban offered an unconditional surrender but Bush rejected it. Citation seriously needed because Wikipedia says the exact opposite.
- willcipriano 3y agoI haven't seen that myself, but consider: > People using CIA and FBI computers have edited entries in the online encyclopedia Wikipedia on topics including the Iraq war and the Guantanamo prison, according to a new tracing program. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-security-wikipedia/cia-fbi-computers-used-for-wikipedia-edits-idUSN1642896020070816 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-security-wikipedia/cia-fb...
- darthoctopus 3y agohttps://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/23/world/middleeast/afghanistan-taliban-deal-united-states.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/23/world/middleeast/afghanis... > It was in the waning days of November 2001 that Taliban leaders began to reach out to Hamid Karzai, who would soon become the interim president of Afghanistan: They wanted to make a deal. > “The Taliban were completely defeated, they had no demands, except amnesty,” recalled Barnett Rubin, who worked with the United Nations’ political team in Afghanistan at the time. > Messengers shuttled back and forth between Mr. Karzai and the headquarters of the Taliban leader, Mullah Muhammad Omar, in Kandahar. Mr. Karzai envisioned a Taliban surrender that would keep the militants from playing any significant role in the country’s future. > But Washington, confident that the Taliban would be wiped out forever, was in no mood for a deal. > “The United States is not inclined to negotiate surrenders,” Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld said in a news conference at the time, adding that the Americans had no interest in leaving Mullah Omar to live out his days anywhere in Afghanistan. The United States wanted him captured or dead.
- triceratops 3y agoOh I see, after the invasion. I thought GP meant before it.
- local_crmdgeon 3y agoNo no, after. We had decisively won but Bush wanted to keep us in for political points.
- triceratops 3y ago> Bush wanted to keep us in for political points I assume it was also because the primary objective - catching bin Laden - had not been achieved.
- 2Gkashmiri 3y agohttps://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=80482&page=1 https://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=80482&page=1 Taliban offered to extradite bin laden to a third neutral country where he would get a fair trial provided us provide evidence of his built. Bush rejected it.
- triceratops 3y agoWikipedia says the same thing you posted. But that's not what "unconditional surrender" means.
- 2Gkashmiri 3y agoCool so that offended a country, like how can a backwater of a dead nation make us reasonable conditions when we want blood of millions? Cool
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