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Also the build quality of Lenovo laptops have gone down so much it's appalling.
by JTbane 3y ago
Also the build quality of Lenovo laptops have gone down so much it's appalling.
- baz00 3y agoYeah this. Keyboard is shite on the new T14 gen 3. Horrible to use.
- sbuk 3y agoI swear the trackpad on my work-issued one takes 5 minutes to warm up before it is useable. It is quite possibly the worst laptop I've ever owned, and I've had a Vostro and a 2018 Macbook with the dodgy keyboards.
- bityard 3y agoI used to be a Thinkpad fanatic due to nice build quality and good Linux support. But in the past few years, I have taken to just buying Dell's midrange business laptops. The build quality can vary by model but they are cheaper, ubiquitous, have great support while in warranty, and Linux always runs just fine on them if you pay attention to the hardware you're buying.
- baz00 3y agoOh man fuck Dell. I get through one every 9 months at work. Absolutely the worst laptops I've ever used. Precision series.
- RajT88 3y agoWhat model? I've been pretty happy with Dell machines at work. Happy enough I bought an older model refurb for 200 dollars shipped, which fits the chargers and docks and such I had lying around from work. Model: Precision 7520 Cpu: i7-6820HQ Memory: 32gb Gpu: Nvidia Quadro M2200 4GB Storage: 500gb SSD Display: 15" 1080p Pretty good specs for the price. Serviceable for older/lower requirements games. Pretty bulky machine though.
- baz00 3y ago5550 - two complete thermal failures. 7670 has blown up two $400 docks, won't charge half the time, blue screens once a week, weighs a ton, gets hotter than satan's nuts.
- RajT88 3y agoWild! I have not at all had any of those issues, and I've had at this point 9 different Dell machines for work or play in the last ~10 years, all laptops. I'm typing this on a Latitude 5421. Granted - My work has been heavy on memory but light on CPU, so perhaps I'm not applying enough deadly heat.
- esalman 3y agoTell me about it. Our company was recently acquired and they are swapping out Thinkpad P1's with Dell precision. Protest was no use.
- gambiting 3y agoSame. I've got a work Precision 7670 in top spec, literally a £7000(!!!!!) machine, and it overheats within 5 seconds of being under load, the CPU hits 100C and throttles down hard. It's equipped with a 3080Ti but it's the same story - the GPU overheats and throttles down to 200MHz, so anything you play is just a stuttery mess. And it's not surprising - inside it there are 2 heat pipes going to two small fans with only one air outlet. Even my "gaming" MSI laptop with half the spec has much beefier cooling, it can run its 3070Ti under full load indefinitely. Not to mention their £400 thunderbolt docks that work maybe 50% of the time.
- baz00 3y agoSame hardware. Absolute turd. Also the screen on mine is the OLED one which is so reflective I can't see anything on the screen other than my own reflection. Who designed that POS!
- vondur 3y agoI purchase the business version of the ThinkPads and the warranties are fine. In fact, HP, Dell and Lenovo use the same company in my area when they send out technicians to work on them.
- sacnoradhq 3y agoThe design of T490 was a big "F U, users" from Lenovo. My magnesium top cased T480 (non-s) with 64 GiB RAM, (4) 72 Whr batteries and the internal one still works and is good enough for the girls I go out with and Windows 11 Enterprise.
- jtwaleson 3y agoDisagree! I've been using Thinkpads since 2004 and was a bit obsessed with them around 2010 and almost had a museum with old machines I bought on eBay. I had two 701cs's butterfly models etc. Every model I've had was much better than the one before in almost every way. There's a lot of nostalgia with the older models, but man, compared to what we have today they were unusable and you would not carry something like that around! Super heavy, easily scratched rubber paint, bad plastic. Now a lot of things I miss a lot. The modularity, latches, ThinkLight, the upside down Thinkpad logo on the outside shell (oriented correctly towards the user, not the other people in the room), 7 row keyboard, good Fn keys functionality like media keys. The T400 that I regularly stood on to impress people how sturdy it was. But all of these things cost a lot in terms of weight and size (except the logo which was just copying the change that Apple made). Just so you know the context: these are the machines I used a lot. T42p, R60, T400, T440s, T470s, T495s, T14s Gen2 (current). If you respect the sturdiness vs. form factor trade-off, I believe build quality has gone up with every machine I bought.
- hakfoo 3y agoEntry level Thinkpads are not particularly impressive. I have an E585 (bought it with the 2700U and 1080p screen upgrades, but added my own SSD and extra RAM because Lenovo charged the moon) and it replaced an X230 Tablet. Even though it's the "upgraded" screen, it's still dim and disappointing. I understand very few Thinkpads have excellent screens; while the X230T's was brighter, it managed to burn the browser chrome after a few years of using it for lap-surfing. The X230 had a slide-off-the-back-side battery. The E585's is inside the case. You could slide open little hatches to access the storage and memory on the X230. The E585 was a single-piece cover with 8 or 9 captive screws and then has to be pried apart with snaps. The E585 has a rubber foot to prop it to provide clearance for the vents; the tape holding it on gave out a couple months ago, so I've stuck little white adhesive rubber furniture feet on it.
- ToniCipriani 3y agoEntry level ThinkPads aren't really ThinkPads, the E-series in particular. Those ones were previously known as ThinkPad Edge, which were designed by a different team.