The problem is not if software engineers are engineers or not, the problem is with defining software itself, as an EE myself, I do software, we learned how to w

The problem is not if software engineers are engineers or not, the problem is with defining software itself, as an EE myself, I do software, we learned how to write programs even in assembly back in the school too, however, you have now (at that’s even before the AI LLM hype) a horde of people who call themselves “engineers” after attending a 3 weeks bootcamp in some front-end framework or library or some data analysis course, they will know how to import a library and repeat some known processes, they lack what every engineer should know, architecture design, I personally believe that if someone can convert an abstract idea into an applicable design, is in fact an engineer, software or not.