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it really would be nice if submissions were open to anyone for reading, rather than sequestered behind a mastodon.

by rolph 3y ago

verdverm 3y ago
Not sure what you mean, I read it without an account, but it has to be hosted (originate) somewhere.
- rolph 3y ago
  do you trust this ? https://fosstodon.org/packs/js/application-e66d0e3da893d3e4f438.chunk.js https://fosstodon.org/packs/js/application-e66d0e3da893d3e4f... i dont, there is no reason to require this when something like: <p> FOO BLABLABLA </p> Works to communicate with people. maybe you could help and post up the ASCII [with due credits of course] then everyone can read the submission.
  - verdverm 3y ago
    what are you even on about? are you complaining about sites that use JS? I have nothing to do with mastedon, nor do I have an account. If you want an ASCII version, make it yourself, I could care less everyone can read the discussion, still not sure what you are talking about
    - rolph 3y ago
      after perusing, https://drewdevault.com/2023/09/29/The-forbidden-topics.html https://drewdevault.com/2023/09/29/The-forbidden-topics.html i can see yellow. and i feel like i agree with, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37780903 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37780903. i would rather not allow code execution, from anything touching, https://fosstodon.org/@drewdevault/111149166582486132 https://fosstodon.org/@drewdevault/111149166582486132
PaulHoule 3y ago
How is that any worse than the links to X which could lead to an error message or a login prompt or a blank page or the right X or a different X or 1000 X’s from followers screaming “squee” or some thread involving that X is which is backwards, forwards or random order?
- rolph 3y ago
  its not worse but smells the same.
  - PaulHoule 3y ago
    Personally I will upload an image to mastodon and post a link to the image in an online discussion if I want somebody to see the image: e.g. here's my horse https://mastodon.social/@UP8/111139332246883656 https://mastodon.social/@UP8/111139332246883656 I feel like it is fit for purpose for a quick image but I'd never post one as an story in HN. Often people post some link to 140 characters worth of pith and seem deluded that somebody is going to care. 15 years ago somebody would have posted a link to a blog, since the last 5 years it is some antiblog like Medium or LinkedIn or HackerNoon in the last year it is a link to X. It's like blogging today is a lost technology like Stonehenge or the Pyramids or something, right up there with SSRed HTML forms. At least it hasn't devolved to posting a link to a screenshot or stupid image meme yet (for some reason angry people think it is lot angrier or something to post text inside an image than to post text, if I ever get YOShInOn working as a Mastodon reader the first think I am going to do is block images where OCR finds a lot of text) X is blocking the visibility of Xes that have external links, I really think HN should "just say no" to links to X, Mastodon, Threads, etc. There is this bad idea people have you can reply to yourself to make an extended "thread" on X or some other platform but so far as I can tell it doesn't really work (people might see the thread, if they do they might see it the way you expect them to but PRO TIP they probably won't) and it's closely related to the other bad smell that people get really angry when people reply to their toots, like you ruined some masterpiece they wrote or something.

it really would be nice if submissions were open to anyone for reading, rather than sequestered behind a mastodon.

by rolph 3y ago

it really would be nice if submissions were open to anyone for reading, rather than sequestered behind a mastodon.

verdverm 3y ago

Not sure what you mean, I read it without an account, but it has to be hosted (originate) somewhere.

rolph 3y ago
do you trust this ? https://fosstodon.org/packs/js/application-e66d0e3da893d3e4f438.chunk.js https://fosstodon.org/packs/js/application-e66d0e3da893d3e4f... i dont, there is no reason to require this when something like: <p> FOO BLABLABLA </p> Works to communicate with people. maybe you could help and post up the ASCII [with due credits of course] then everyone can read the submission.
- verdverm 3y ago
  what are you even on about? are you complaining about sites that use JS? I have nothing to do with mastedon, nor do I have an account. If you want an ASCII version, make it yourself, I could care less everyone can read the discussion, still not sure what you are talking about
  - rolph 3y ago
    after perusing, https://drewdevault.com/2023/09/29/The-forbidden-topics.html https://drewdevault.com/2023/09/29/The-forbidden-topics.html i can see yellow. and i feel like i agree with, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37780903 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37780903. i would rather not allow code execution, from anything touching, https://fosstodon.org/@drewdevault/111149166582486132 https://fosstodon.org/@drewdevault/111149166582486132

PaulHoule 3y ago

How is that any worse than the links to X which could lead to an error message or a login prompt or a blank page or the right X or a different X or 1000 X’s from followers screaming “squee” or some thread involving that X is which is backwards, forwards or random order?

rolph 3y ago
its not worse but smells the same.
- PaulHoule 3y ago
  Personally I will upload an image to mastodon and post a link to the image in an online discussion if I want somebody to see the image: e.g. here's my horse https://mastodon.social/@UP8/111139332246883656 https://mastodon.social/@UP8/111139332246883656 I feel like it is fit for purpose for a quick image but I'd never post one as an story in HN. Often people post some link to 140 characters worth of pith and seem deluded that somebody is going to care. 15 years ago somebody would have posted a link to a blog, since the last 5 years it is some antiblog like Medium or LinkedIn or HackerNoon in the last year it is a link to X. It's like blogging today is a lost technology like Stonehenge or the Pyramids or something, right up there with SSRed HTML forms. At least it hasn't devolved to posting a link to a screenshot or stupid image meme yet (for some reason angry people think it is lot angrier or something to post text inside an image than to post text, if I ever get YOShInOn working as a Mastodon reader the first think I am going to do is block images where OCR finds a lot of text) X is blocking the visibility of Xes that have external links, I really think HN should "just say no" to links to X, Mastodon, Threads, etc. There is this bad idea people have you can reply to yourself to make an extended "thread" on X or some other platform but so far as I can tell it doesn't really work (people might see the thread, if they do they might see it the way you expect them to but PRO TIP they probably won't) and it's closely related to the other bad smell that people get really angry when people reply to their toots, like you ruined some masterpiece they wrote or something.