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> Gun prevalence explains the medium of choise these past 25 years, and one thing that needs to be tackled, but there seems to be other factors at play as well.

• omginternets 3y ago
  I have not seen #2. Enlighten me?
  • tivert 3y ago
    > I have not seen #2. Enlighten me? You have. It's all the wall-to-wall publicity the shootings get. #2 might have a connection to the popularization of 24-hour news channels, which experience a huge pressure to fill air time with something.
    • estebank 3y ago
      American school shootings are news across the world. Why doesn that copy cat effect affect other countries?
      • omginternets 3y ago
        To be fair, in the European countries I've visited, the media coverage is less sensational, and less relentless. That said, I do agree the gp's explanation is simplistic. There's clearly some kind of quest for transcendence involved in school shootings (not unlike e.g. Islamic terrorism); recognition for the act is definitely one element of that, but I think there's got to be more.
      • giantg2 3y ago
        To some degree it might. There are some instances of school attacks in other countries. I would guess that socioeconomic factors are a main driver in lower school violence levels in other countries. Even within the US, socioeconomic factors are main factors in localized variances. I would also guess that media coverage is much different in other countries, where the event is reported without being sensationalized and without constant coverage for days or weeks on end.
      • tivert 3y ago
        > American school shootings are news across the world. Why doesn that copy cat effect affect other countries? I doubt they're covered to the same degree as in America (e.g. CNN reiterating every detail, over and over, for days). I don't think America would have the school shooting problem is has if they were covered to the same degree as, say, Indian gang rapes are covered.
• krapp 3y ago
  People don't blame guns exclusively, but it's obvious to anyone (except gun owners) that the scale of gun violence and ease of access to firearms are related, so guns are part of the problem. Unfortunately they are a part of the problem which is existentially impossible to address in any effective way, because any gun control or regulation which could effectively lower gun crime would be unconstitutional in the US, so even bringing it up is futile. >1. Some kind of social dysfunction that's leading deeper levels of anger and isolation in some people. This happens everywhere. You should ask yourself why school shootings aren't also a problem everywhere. >2. Massive national advertising campaigns by the media reminding angry, isolated teenagers that shooting up their school is an option they have. Maybe you should ask yourself why it's an option they have.
  • tivert 3y ago
    > This happens everywhere. You should ask yourself why school shootings aren't also a problem everywhere. Because people in those other places have fewer rights. Taking away rights and adding restrictions are a time-tested solution to many social problems. America should try it. Get rid of the First and Second Amendments, and you solve school shootings, extremism, Trump, the threat to democracy, all in one blow. The problem isn't really that society fucks people up and doesn't bother to help them, the problem is those people aren't impotent enough.
    • krapp 3y ago
      The fact that you consider shooting up schools to be a right and equate a lack of guns with impotence demonstrates why it's impossible to have rational discussion on this topic. The degree to which gun violence itself fucks people up in the US doesn't even occur to you. Thanks for playing to type, I guess.
      • tivert 3y ago
        > The fact that you consider shooting up schools to be a right... I don't understand how anyone could manage to misread my comment that badly.
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