> Asking people to have less, experience less, and do less isn’t an argument that can ever win. I think that's setting the bar very low, and I don't think it's

> Asking people to have less, experience less, and do less isn’t an argument that can ever win. I think that's setting the bar very low, and I don't think it's necessarily true. Most of us learn how to manage a finite resource (our own income) and how to maximize results within those constraints. This is not some sort of alien situation that humans can't identify with. We face questions like "Do we really need this?" and "Can we afford it right now?" all the time. We need to get better at organizing ourselves in large groups/structures to do this at the global level, and make people feel equity in the decision-making and that they can afford this equity, and I'm quite optimistic we can in principle get there. Whether we can do it fast enough is the worrying bit.