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> or that is otherwise from a legitimate sender that complies with your local laws and will honor the unsubscription. I think your (luvb1e's) issue is that you

> or that is otherwise from a legitimate sender that complies with your local laws and will honor the unsubscription. I think your (luvb1e's) issue is that you don't understand the fundamental definition of SPAM: SPAM is anything that the sender (not the recipient) defines as SPAM. For example, a few years ago I bought something from L. L. Bean. In addition to my order confirmation, shipping confirmation, thank you email, surveys, ect, they also automatically put me on their daily email flyer. All of these emails were legal. Some of the emails were in the "grey area" between legit email and SPAM. The daily email flyer that I never signed up for: 100% SPAM. (And 100% legal.) Remember: It's my inbox, so I define what I consider SPAM to be SPAM. L. L. Bean can't twist the definition of SPAM so that their SPAM is really something else, and then blame me for hitting the SPAM button.

lucb1e 3y ago
> It's my inbox, so I define what I consider SPAM That's like saying: it's my back yard, I'll decide which laws apply here and who can deal drugs here It's nice to decide on one's own what legislation should look like, but that muddles the detection of real spam. You are signaling to your email provider that this email should never have been sent and that the sender is dishonestly sending garbage around. If the email was legal in your area, I would say the problem lies there, because no amount of spam button pressing will solve the problem if they continue to have a commercial advantage by sending unsolicited commercial email.
- gwbas1c 3y ago
  > real spam The daily flyer that I never signed up for is "real spam." It doesn't matter who sends it. You can't go and say, "oh, we're not spoofing and harvesting so we're not spam." That's just writing your own loophole so you can hijack my inbox and turn it into a billboard. And remember, I bear the burden of my inbox being full of email that I never subscribed to and will never read. Pushing the spam button has no consequence to me, but hopefully it will trigger consequences for somebody who thinks that my inbox should be their billboard.

lucb1e 3y ago

> It's my inbox, so I define what I consider SPAM That's like saying: it's my back yard, I'll decide which laws apply here and who can deal drugs here It's nice to decide on one's own what legislation should look like, but that muddles the detection of real spam. You are signaling to your email provider that this email should never have been sent and that the sender is dishonestly sending garbage around. If the email was legal in your area, I would say the problem lies there, because no amount of spam button pressing will solve the problem if they continue to have a commercial advantage by sending unsolicited commercial email.

gwbas1c 3y ago
> real spam The daily flyer that I never signed up for is "real spam." It doesn't matter who sends it. You can't go and say, "oh, we're not spoofing and harvesting so we're not spam." That's just writing your own loophole so you can hijack my inbox and turn it into a billboard. And remember, I bear the burden of my inbox being full of email that I never subscribed to and will never read. Pushing the spam button has no consequence to me, but hopefully it will trigger consequences for somebody who thinks that my inbox should be their billboard.