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If you do not know the answer yet,as it sounds like you do, but there is a ting of rant there, let me expand what was said in the article: TCP/IP was build for

If you do not know the answer yet,as it sounds like you do, but there is a ting of rant there, let me expand what was said in the article: TCP/IP was build for 80s/90s when - Amount of data transferred was low - Data access patterns were different - Most TCP/IP was in university networks - There were no consumer users - Everyone on Internet could be trusted Today we have - 3B more people using Internet - 5B people living in authoritative regimes where the government wants to jail them for saying wrong thing on Internet - Mobile users - Wireless users (subject to different packet loss conditions) - You can stream 4k movies in your pocket - You can search and find any piece of information online under one second To get the low latencies and high bandwidths for mobile links TCP/IP can do it, but QUIC and HTTP/3 does it much better. Plus it's always encrypted, making all kind of middlebox attacks harder.

peoplefromibiza 3y ago
> - 5B people living in authoritative regimes it's actually 1.9B > where the government wants to jail them for saying wrong thing on Internet that happens across all the spectrum of types of systems of government
- Spivak 3y ago
  And you put those two statements together and you're back to the 5B number. I don't really care if your system of choosing leaders is democratic elections if at the same time you're burning books.
  - peoplefromibiza 3y ago
    > and you're back to the 5B number no, if you include anybody in the World, you are back at 7B The point was that you contradicted yourself: if 3B people use the internet (as you said) only 3B people are in danger of being spied through the internet. > I don't really care if your system of choosing leaders is democratic elections Unfortunately the dictionary does. And one does not imply the other, I mean it's one thing to have cameras in the streets for (allegedly) safety purpose and another thing entirely to be hanged from a crane if you're gay. Let's not pretend that everything is the same everywhere just because we don't like or agree with a particular aspect of what happens in our own country.
    - Spivak 3y ago
      I think you meant to reply to someone else, I said nothing about the internet only that the math of "5B people live under authoritarian regimes." "Actually it's only 1.9B if you use my definition of authoritarian, the rest are just authoritarian behaviors." Okay so to everyone but you 5B live under authoritarian regimes then -- "Not technically authoritarianism" is not something you should feel the need to say about countries you're arguing aren't authoritarian. > another thing entirely to be hanged from a crane if you're gay I know right, we're so much more civilized. We just lock them up if they do gay stuff in public, require sexual education to teach that homosexuality is an "unacceptable lifestyle choice", define consensual sex between two homosexual teenagers as rape, and and have a standing legal theory that people just can't help it if they are thrown into a blind rage and attack a gay person for being gay that in 2023 is still a legal defense in 33 states. And that's just the gays, the political punching bag de jour is trans people and they get it even worse.
    - megous 3y ago
      > no, if you include anybody in the World, you are back at 7B you should update your numbers

peoplefromibiza 3y ago

> - 5B people living in authoritative regimes it's actually 1.9B > where the government wants to jail them for saying wrong thing on Internet that happens across all the spectrum of types of systems of government

Spivak 3y ago
And you put those two statements together and you're back to the 5B number. I don't really care if your system of choosing leaders is democratic elections if at the same time you're burning books.
- peoplefromibiza 3y ago
  > and you're back to the 5B number no, if you include anybody in the World, you are back at 7B The point was that you contradicted yourself: if 3B people use the internet (as you said) only 3B people are in danger of being spied through the internet. > I don't really care if your system of choosing leaders is democratic elections Unfortunately the dictionary does. And one does not imply the other, I mean it's one thing to have cameras in the streets for (allegedly) safety purpose and another thing entirely to be hanged from a crane if you're gay. Let's not pretend that everything is the same everywhere just because we don't like or agree with a particular aspect of what happens in our own country.
  - Spivak 3y ago
    I think you meant to reply to someone else, I said nothing about the internet only that the math of "5B people live under authoritarian regimes." "Actually it's only 1.9B if you use my definition of authoritarian, the rest are just authoritarian behaviors." Okay so to everyone but you 5B live under authoritarian regimes then -- "Not technically authoritarianism" is not something you should feel the need to say about countries you're arguing aren't authoritarian. > another thing entirely to be hanged from a crane if you're gay I know right, we're so much more civilized. We just lock them up if they do gay stuff in public, require sexual education to teach that homosexuality is an "unacceptable lifestyle choice", define consensual sex between two homosexual teenagers as rape, and and have a standing legal theory that people just can't help it if they are thrown into a blind rage and attack a gay person for being gay that in 2023 is still a legal defense in 33 states. And that's just the gays, the political punching bag de jour is trans people and they get it even worse.
  - megous 3y ago
    > no, if you include anybody in the World, you are back at 7B you should update your numbers