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> It's a solution to a very specific problem: cashless shops. Why should the government be responsible for building out an incredible infrastructure project so

> It's a solution to a very specific problem: cashless shops. Why should the government be responsible for building out an incredible infrastructure project so that some businesses don't have to worry about handling cash? Cash is not a new concept, we've been using it since the inception of the nation. Suddenly some businesses find a way to save a buck by not handling it, but this also happens to segregate a portion of Americans, but oh well that's not their fault, if the government doesn't like businesses doing segregation, the government can just become a bank? And issues cards? Nah. In the USA if you want to do business you need to manage and handle cash. That's a perfectly reasonable expectation. Cost of doing business. You also have to track your revenue and file taxes. That's perfectly reasonable as well, right? Or should the government be responsible for auditing every single company and managing their finances to determine how much tax is owed? I mean it would save the company money, right?

robertlagrant 3y ago
> Why should the government be responsible for building out an incredible infrastructure project so that some businesses don't have to worry about handling cash? Your post is pretty poor tone-wise, but I'll address this. It's the exact opposite of what you're saying. If the government wants something, it should pay for it. Business is not imposing anything on the government. Business pays the government money it earns, and the government decides how much, and how long to lock the owner in a box for if they don't pay enough. Why should businesses be financially responsible for things the government is paid to solve?
- komali2 3y ago
  I was replicating your tone, because the question seems silly: businesses have to do what governments say because governments aren't businesses, they're representations of the people's will and protectors of the people's wellbeing. Businesses are profit generating algorithms with singular purpose. They have no other concerns. Without governments, businesses would seek profit through horrifying means.
  - robertlagrant 3y ago
    These stereotypes are far too simple. Governments are the things that declare wars and send people to their deaths. They can strangle their own populations to death via socialism, or kill races through genocides. They aren't just protectors of the people's wellbeing. Humans make up businesses and governments. Governments can overreach very easily, as they have all the power. It is totally valid to point out when a government misuses that power against businesses, because businesses are just people, and people in governments shouldn't abuse other people with bad policies.
    - komali2 3y ago
      As you say, however the measure of a successful business is simply profit, while the measure of a good government is far more nuanced but usually something along the lines of "how well the people in the nation are faring." Therefore, it makes sense that we order our society such that businesses are subservient to governments, and governments priorities are first and foremost the needs of people, regardless of any additional cost to businesses.

robertlagrant 3y ago

> Why should the government be responsible for building out an incredible infrastructure project so that some businesses don't have to worry about handling cash? Your post is pretty poor tone-wise, but I'll address this. It's the exact opposite of what you're saying. If the government wants something, it should pay for it. Business is not imposing anything on the government. Business pays the government money it earns, and the government decides how much, and how long to lock the owner in a box for if they don't pay enough. Why should businesses be financially responsible for things the government is paid to solve?

komali2 3y ago
I was replicating your tone, because the question seems silly: businesses have to do what governments say because governments aren't businesses, they're representations of the people's will and protectors of the people's wellbeing. Businesses are profit generating algorithms with singular purpose. They have no other concerns. Without governments, businesses would seek profit through horrifying means.
- robertlagrant 3y ago
  These stereotypes are far too simple. Governments are the things that declare wars and send people to their deaths. They can strangle their own populations to death via socialism, or kill races through genocides. They aren't just protectors of the people's wellbeing. Humans make up businesses and governments. Governments can overreach very easily, as they have all the power. It is totally valid to point out when a government misuses that power against businesses, because businesses are just people, and people in governments shouldn't abuse other people with bad policies.
  - komali2 3y ago
    As you say, however the measure of a successful business is simply profit, while the measure of a good government is far more nuanced but usually something along the lines of "how well the people in the nation are faring." Therefore, it makes sense that we order our society such that businesses are subservient to governments, and governments priorities are first and foremost the needs of people, regardless of any additional cost to businesses.